I agree with you that everyone should have seen this coming but I cant imagine overnights being more than 20% of the trips overall. Barring a merger with an airline that does overnights of course.

It always was just another airline. We even furlough too. Home every-night was and is not the case for many for a long time now. That should have never been a serious consideration, but management loved to spin it. The next contract is going to take a very long time to address this. I think people are just now starting to realize the long road to an uncertain contractual future.

"Just another ****ing airline" - Maury Gallagher, 2012

This times 1000. 3 leg days are efficient and keep the trips efficient for us while allowing more efficient scheduling in the outstation. Whether those are single or multi day 3 leg trips, is irrelevant. This is the point where scheduling the airline in Excel is killing the company and us.


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Blast from the past. Someone should resurrect that letter. Quite telling. Cursing at your pilots. Who does that?

Someone balls deep into a 20 year old bottle of Scotch after his pilots voted in a union after years of his abuse.

Here’s the thing…
 

Allegiant didn’t choose the “home every night” model as a perk or benefit to their pilots. They chose it because it saves money on hotel, travel, perdiem, etc.

So, rather than ethically sharing some of those savings with their labor force via higher compensation, bonuses, incentive pay, etc., they pitch the concept as a BENEFIT to the flight crew as a reason to pay LESS.

Furthermore it has been established as a carrot to be used carte blanche to counter any negative realities about working here. “BUT…you’re home every night!”

The pilot group should be using the same logic to ARGUE FOR higher pay. The company saves on operating costs AND wage costs due to this model, and we’re dumb enough to let them leverage it as a reason to pay us less.

There’s a toxic culture here against the pilots, and it was a large part of my motivation to leave. I know every airline has its problems, but I’m choosing to not give years of my life working for a company that openly loathes the people that allow them to exist as an airline.

No offense dude but you worked here maybe a minute in the grand scheme of things and you're lecturing pilots who have been here a decade on the way things are at this company. That's pure comedy.

Glad you were able to leave. It's always easier to cut and run but I don't blame anyone for doing it right now.

Honestly, I will buy into the idea home every night is a benefit or perk. At the same time if they are going to tie a lower hourly compensation rate due to this benefit it needs to be monetized.

For example if you are unable to get home each calendar night you are compensated an additional 5 credit per calendar day away from home to existing credit of trip.

No offense taken. And I get it, that I was a new guy.

And I wasn’t necessarily lecturing the 10-year pilots but the new guys considering this place. But also maybe a little to the 10-year pilots as well because whatever they’ve been doing clearly isn’t working to change things.

What I do see having some effect is enough of us leaving could possibly change things for you guys for the better, so in that regard, you’re welcome 😉