First year FO pay
11-04-2023 | 07:49 AM
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No. The first year pay is $57. There is a retention bonus but it won't be paid til the CBA is ratified, which will almost certainly be well past when you're off first year pay. Guarantee pay is $57x70 a month.
11-04-2023 | 09:17 AM
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$57
They are not advertising $105, nor are they paying $105. First year pay is $57 x 70 hour guarantee = $47,880 annual base. They are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement which they hope will bring them to $105 at some unknown time in the future.
11-04-2023 | 09:45 AM
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Nothing like an unbinding promise from a company to pay more at some point down the road unless they decide not to. Remember, this is the company that couldn't wait to furlough pilots during covid
11-04-2023 | 09:52 AM
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FO pay is still ridiculously low, and the bonus won’t be paid for years so all potential hires must be aware of that. But we don’t need to feed them blatant lies. The bonus is getting paid. It’s being accrued and on the balance sheet. $17m last quarter.
11-04-2023 | 09:55 AM
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it’s disingenuous to say that first year pay is $105 when only approx half of that is paid right now. The other half probably won’t be paid til 2025 time frame.
11-04-2023 | 10:03 AM
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”Can’t walk away….right thing to do”
Contractually mandated & violated daily since 2016:
“Bid awards will be accomplished in seniority order”
11-04-2023 | 10:07 AM
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dude, the promise is in writing with the union. It’s as binding as the CBA. Why spread blatant lies?
FO pay is still ridiculously low, and the bonus won’t be paid for years so all potential hires must be aware of that. But we don’t need to feed them blatant lies. The bonus is getting paid. It’s being accrued and on the balance sheet. $17m last quarter.
FO pay is still ridiculously low, and the bonus won’t be paid for years so all potential hires must be aware of that. But we don’t need to feed them blatant lies. The bonus is getting paid. It’s being accrued and on the balance sheet. $17m last quarter.
11-04-2023 | 10:08 AM
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11-04-2023 | 11:03 AM
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if your answer is: “management won’t pay because they can violate their collective bargaining agreements whenever they want”
then my question is: let’s just get rid of the cba, what’s the point of any of mediation, a cba, etc if none of it matters??
drop the grand conspiracy that AR and Management are lying to us…
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