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Carlsbad 03-15-2017 12:26 PM

Should you leave AA?
 
Well we have a thread for coming to AA. How about one for leaving?
10+ years here and talked to an ex-coworker who's been at Delta only about 4 years and making more now than I do, with a better schedule to boot. I've got over 20 years left and beginning to think this place might be a write off. Seriously anyone else thinking the same thing? Starting to kick myself for not considering a bail sooner.

WhiskeyDelta 03-15-2017 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Carlsbad (Post 2321248)
Well we have a thread for coming to AA. How about one for leaving?
10+ years here and talked to an ex-coworker who's been at Delta only about 4 years and making more now than I do, with a better schedule to boot. I've got over 20 years left and beginning to think this place might be a write off. Seriously anyone else thinking the same thing? Starting to kick myself for not considering a bail sooner.

Delta didn't hire from Oct 2010 until Jan 2014. Just putting that out since you said about 4 years...

mainlineAF 03-15-2017 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Carlsbad (Post 2321248)
Well we have a thread for coming to AA. How about one for leaving?
10+ years here and talked to an ex-coworker who's been at Delta only about 4 years and making more now than I do, with a better schedule to boot. I've got over 20 years left and beginning to think this place might be a write off. Seriously anyone else thinking the same thing? Starting to kick myself for not considering a bail sooner.



I contemplated it very seriously. But with 2000ish junior to me I decided it was best to stay. UA, DL, FX and UPS have hired a ton of guys in the last few years. If I left for DL, for example, it'd be close to a 5000 number swing.

I've heard horror stories of guys chasing airlines and I don't want to be one of them. It should get better here with time. There's a ton of retirements coming up and god forbid another downturn you don't want to be at the end of a massive seniority list.

Mover 03-15-2017 01:58 PM

I've been here since November and I'm honestly contemplating other options. Mostly out of the airline business because the flying itself is boring on top of the crappy work rules and poor management.

NYC Pilot 03-15-2017 02:15 PM

Once you are at an airline like American, it makes little sense to move laterally since it's going to be the same pile of sh!t at any other place. The only reason to move would be to a place where you don't have to commute and you like that certain base that certain airline offers. The job itself is not going to be any better and you would have to go through probation again. You are probably better off at American since all the retirements are coming up. Good luck,

Broncofan 03-15-2017 02:46 PM

amereican has the most retirements of all the majors coming. If your there I wouldn't leave.

mainlineAF 03-15-2017 02:49 PM

Should you leave AA?
 

Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2321324)
I've been here since November and I'm honestly contemplating other options. Mostly out of the airline business because the flying itself is boring on top of the crappy work rules and poor management.



Same as any flying job except flying fighters. Did you expect it to be different?

Edit to add once you get on third year pay the boredom is worth it.

jcountry 03-15-2017 02:53 PM

Please bail!

I'd love to move up a number! (And it will be entertaining to see you crying about delta in a couple years.)

Name User 03-15-2017 04:26 PM

There has never been a time in history when DAL was worse off then AA. Delta has much better management and always has.

If you commute for either one or live in a DAL base the choice is a no-brainer. IMO.

I would at least apply first, you can't turn down a job you don't have.

Over time, DAL, SWA, jetBlue, and Spirit/Frontier are going to eat our lunch. Our product is crap compared to DAL/jetBlue and our front facing people are bitter and absolutely hate customers. Hell, even our own employees hate each other.

Why am I still here? I plan to move/retire to a junior AA base and AA can at least give me a couple more years so I can walk away if needed.

DesertDog 03-15-2017 04:32 PM

Everyone senior to me should bail


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