What’s the issue with ORD? Feel free to PM.

See you lose credibility when you say stuff like regional work rules would be a 20% raise. That’s just ridiculous.

I feel bad for those poor Delta FOs making $50k+/month before 401k contributions. Not to mention the superior PS, LTD, STD and 270 hours of sick time per year. It must be horrible for them to be represented by ALPA. I’m sure they wished they were represented by good ol’ APA where you can fly 21 days for 77 hours of credit. But at least our hourly rate is a few cents higher. Just don’t pay attention to the time off or W2s.

DL FO’s get 270 hrs of sick time per year? I didn’t know that and I doubt they know that.

It’s like the guy saying “even at my regional we got ACD!”
He’d never mention how much it was. The ACD regional value I found was 2 hrs.

Like I said, a smarter LAA guy would ask a negotiator for facts before believing someone on the Internet.

All Delta pilots get 270 hours of sick time deposited in their sick bank each year. Makes your 60 hours of sick seem pretty pathetic. Read the contract comparison on alliedpilots.org. Talk to a delt pilot. The problem is most AA pilots have no idea how sh&tty our contract is in comparison to DAL, UAL, SWA, etc.

Not entirely true. DAL pilots don't get 270/year until the 20 YOS point. New hires start with 50 and it increases each year until 8 YOS (50, 75, 100, 125, 145, 170, 195, 220) then 9-19 YOS it increases to 240 then at 20 YOS and beyond it's 270. Still better than what we get though.

One point in our favor, depending on how you look at it, is that ours is banked if not used. DAL's is use or lose.

Wouldn’t you find that to be superior to AA’s system? Given the quality of our pairings, the red/redder/reddest BS, and age of our pilot group are there AA pilots actually banking 60 hours per year?

The vast majority of AA pilots have 20 years of service but call it an average of 240 hours per year to be conservative. That’s 3 months of paid time off. Huge safety net in the event of illnsss or short term disability.

50k per month?

Are you smoking crack rock? And funneling bleach?

Tide pods......