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meyers9163 05-25-2018 06:30 PM

So on probation still? Did ORD get pilots junior to you? I know CLT hasn’t obviously in a while. Just wondering.

Rawhide16 05-25-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2602475)
So on probation still? Did ORD get pilots junior to you? I know CLT hasn’t obviously in a while. Just wondering.

I am. Not expecting to get ORD or CLT for quite some time. Just trying to set myself up for success now and considering my options.

Sliceback 05-25-2018 08:22 PM

You’ll be locked into the next seat for two years. I’d try and predict the future -

1. figure out your yearly seniority number improvement. Compare what you’d hold at the one and two year mark using the 4XP’s.

2. (better) - use the APA 3XP’s and find out how many senior guys retire in the base you’re evaluating. Pick a percentage (80%??) and assume that many n/b FO’s senior to you bid into the seats bring vacated by retirees.

3. See what sort of trips you can expect to hold using #1 or #2 ^

Using these assumptions might give you a better feel for what bid status would be better over a two year span.

Rawhide16 05-28-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2602517)
You’ll be locked into the next seat for two years. I’d try and predict the future -

1. figure out your yearly seniority number improvement. Compare what you’d hold at the one and two year mark using the 4XP’s.

2. (better) - use the APA 3XP’s and find out how many senior guys retire in the base you’re evaluating. Pick a percentage (80%??) and assume that many n/b FO’s senior to you bid into the seats bring vacated by retirees.

3. See what sort of trips you can expect to hold using #1 or #2 ^

Using these assumptions might give you a better feel for what bid status would be better over a two year span.

Thanks Slice! I've seen the 3XPs but I'm not familiar with the 4XPs. Where are those found?

Sliceback 05-28-2018 09:19 AM

Typo. It’s all 3XP’s

N10DJ 05-30-2018 05:38 PM

Anyone know how long they are withholding people transferring between 737 to A320 or vice versa? Seems like that and the 787 group are the main equipment types being withheld. Hopefully not the full year.

meyers9163 05-31-2018 02:05 AM

It’s all over. Seems it’s based on their need. ORD 737 pilots from airbus bases got transferred fairly quickly the last few bids. I.e ord was short on 737 drivers for many months and they finally addressed it. Seems it’s all bases on their needs and no rhyme or reason?

mainlineAF 05-31-2018 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by N10DJ (Post 2605685)
Anyone know how long they are withholding people transferring between 737 to A320 or vice versa? Seems like that and the 787 group are the main equipment types being withheld. Hopefully not the full year.



Almost everyone who bids off the 190 (ca and fo) gets withheld close to the year limit.

Cheddar 05-31-2018 07:32 PM

I was released 7 months early from a seat lock on the bus in DFW for a pref bid I never expected. In fact I think all the Airbus DFW FOs weren’t withheld leaving for other pref bids while the 737 FOs all seemed withheld. The last bid, it seemed like crew planning realized their mistake and filled the 320 again. Sooooooo, you never know if or when you will get what you want! Bid what you want!!!

It’s been said before about AA, and it’s true - every day is our first day!


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ViperGuy69 06-01-2018 06:13 AM

LAX or PHL
 
Speaking of schedules between 737/320/190...

If you were commuting from OKC, and had your choice between 737/320 in LAX or the 190 in PHL, which do think would be better?

2x non-stops per day from OKC to both cities.

Assuming a new hire, with a desire to get based in DFW eventually.


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