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EMBFlyer 06-03-2018 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2607876)
I’m starting to think you don’t like me rummaging through my bag in the quiet room or texting all night long with my ringer on full blast.

Haha! The joys of shared ops.

mainlineAF 06-03-2018 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rawhide16 (Post 2607654)
True but there is a common misconception out there that getting an E190 will get you to a line faster. I figured I’d share my experience to show that isn’t always the case. If a line is what you want then 73 may be faster. It also may not.



Very true.

ViperGuy69 06-04-2018 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2607831)
Commuting out of OKC?

Bid the S80...we have nine (9!) direct flights all but one is a mainline with JS.

Then when you get displaced next year you can force yourself into DFW without a vacancy.

Don't make this hard.


Yeah the S80/DFW will be my first choice definitely, but if hired I probably won’t go to indoc until August. Not sure if they’ll still be handing out those assignments anymore. Keeping my fingers crossed!

ORDinary 06-04-2018 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2607737)
Lga 737 guys getting lines right out of tng or only 1 month on reserve. Your results may vary.

Not true. Junior long call pilots are on at least their 3rd month. Not that that's bad, but 1 month to a line is definitely not true.

sherpster 06-04-2018 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2608503)
Not true. Junior long call pilots are on at least their 3rd month. Not that that's bad, but 1 month to a line is definitely not true.

Ok, if you say so BUT I did 1 day of short call in april after tng, then had a line in may and now june. And I am not the only one

ORDinary 06-04-2018 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2608509)
Ok, if you say so BUT I did 1 day of short call in april after tng, then had a line in may and now june. And I am not the only one

That's awesome. I guess maybe it's cyclical.

ViperGuy69 06-07-2018 04:36 AM

LAX 320/737 schedules for commuters
 
I’ve heard the 320 is a little easier than the 737 in LAX becasue you only have to cover one airport. What about the lines being “commutable”? Lots of early shows/late finishes? Trips that begin with a deadhead or redeye?

PRS Guitars 06-07-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by ViperGuy69 (Post 2610054)
I’ve heard the 320 is a little easier than the 737 in LAX becasue you only have to cover one airport. What about the lines being “commutable”? Lots of early shows/late finishes? Trips that begin with a deadhead or redeye?

It will change by the time you get here.

Its a mixed bag. There are lots of trips that start with red eyes (also known as “all nighters”) to the east coast. They are often in open time, so go to reserves. Good news is they are commutable on the front end, not great on the back side for a commute to OKC I’m guessing. There are lots of great trips too, that will vary by seniority and you might get one on reserve. We have some commutable 3 days that pay 17+ hours (which is good for a three day) and are easily commutable on both sides. We have some commutable 2 & 1 days as well, not a lot of 4 days and they are rarely in open time (unless they start with a red eye). As a new hire, I’m not sure what you’re schedule will look like, you’ll get DFW before you hit 80% in LAX I bet.

But really, the bottom line is, it doesn’t matter for you right now (see my first sentence). Your priority is get hired, get a class date, expect poor QOL for a year or two, manage expectations with your family, then mitigate you QOL and commute, the best you can until you can hold DFW. I seriously wouldn’t put too much thought into it until you are on property, then you will have access to the data yourself and can really start planning. I certainly wouldn’t factor LAX into your decision matrix about which airline to go to.

OVBIII 06-07-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2610182)
It will change by the time you get here.

Its a mixed bag. There are lots of trips that start with red eyes (also known as “all nighters”) to the east coast. They are often in open time, so go to reserves. Good news is they are commutable on the front end, not great on the back side for a commute to OKC I’m guessing. There are lots of great trips too, that will vary by seniority and you might get one on reserve. We have some commutable 3 days that pay 17+ hours (which is good for a three day) and are easily commutable on both sides. We have some commutable 2 & 1 days as well, not a lot of 4 days and they are rarely in open time (unless they start with a red eye). As a new hire, I’m not sure what you’re schedule will look like, you’ll get DFW before you hit 80% in LAX I bet.

But really, the bottom line is, it doesn’t matter for you right now (see my first sentence). Your priority is get hired, get a class date, expect poor QOL for a year or two, manage expectations with your family, then mitigate you QOL and commute, the best you can until you can hold DFW. I seriously wouldn’t put too much thought into it until you are on property, then you will have access to the data yourself and can really start planning. I certainly wouldn’t factor LAX into your decision matrix about which airline to go to.

Very well put. I think a part a lot of people miss is the “manage expectations with the family”. I have spent a lot of time at home as a new hire so I’m talking out of both sides of my mouth. But I spent a lot of time preparing my family for the reasonable time away. (Never mind the fact that when I was full time mil I was never ever home)

ViperGuy69 06-07-2018 11:34 AM

Thanks for the great info. I am prepared to commute to reserve on the west or east coast for a year or so until I can hold DFW. Just curious if PHL or LAX would be easier from OKC. Sounds like they both have pluses and minuses.


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