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Saabs 08-25-2018 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2661791)
Reading comprehension is hard for some to grasp. Unsure what the debate even was. For new hires CLT absolutely is the most senior and nearly impossible to get into. Guess some just can’t read.

Way to be a Richard.

mainlineAF 08-25-2018 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2661894)
Way to be a Richard.



Lol and he was wrong. That’s an angry dude.

ORDinary 08-25-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2661791)
For new hires CLT absolutely is the most senior and nearly impossible to get into.

ORD is as bad or worse I think.

Dobbs18 08-25-2018 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2661910)
ORD is as bad or worse I think.

Yes, ORD is basically the same as CLT. The most jr FO is separated by 1 class. MAR 17 for CLT and APR 17 for ORD. So anyone hired after those classes could conceivably have bid, depending on equipment, and held any other base other than CLT or ORD. That being said it looks as though ORD has been harder to bid into for a recent hire(last 4yrs or so)over the last 3 vacancies, according to 3XP.

Dobbs18 08-25-2018 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Dobbs18 (Post 2661976)
Yes, ORD is basically the same as CLT. The most jr FO is separated by 1 class. MAR 17 for CLT and APR 17 for ORD. So anyone hired after those classes could conceivably have bid, depending on equipment, and held any other base other than CLT or ORD. That being said it looks as though ORD has been harder to bid into for a recent hire(last 4yrs or so)over the last 3 vacancies, according to 3XP.

Nevermind, what i said above, it is wrong and poorly worded...the dates are correct but i have no idea what guys after those hire dates can and can't hold...i just know that ORD and CLT have most senior bottom of list guys for a Group II airplane.

Name User 08-25-2018 04:36 PM

Well on the east side, some guys got CLT in training, some got it within a few months and some had to wait a few years.

Shrinking/stagnant bases will always be tough to get into as most who are there don't want to leave, so no new spots. AKA BOS, PHX, ORD. Etc.

Would be nice if we were UA and adding flying but Doug has never done that on the mainline side, the recent European stuff notwithstanding, and the few point to point stuff we had has been killed by high(er) fuel prices. The stuff we are adding guys thumb their nose at (ie CAE, GSP, etc etc).

mainlineAF 08-26-2018 05:45 AM

Any idea when the next bid will be?

Saabs 08-26-2018 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2662242)
Any idea when the next bid will be?

Gonna bid off the RJ?

redbaronahp 08-26-2018 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2662080)
Would be nice if we were UA and adding flying but Doug has never done that on the mainline side, the recent European stuff notwithstanding, and the few point to point stuff we had has been killed by high(er) fuel prices. The stuff we are adding guys thumb their nose at (ie CAE, GSP, etc etc).

Give the flying to regionals and give international to code share partners who are willing to do it cheaper seems to be Doug’s philosophy. We need language in the next contract to get the flying back or at the least to keep it.

mainlineAF 08-26-2018 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2662268)
Gonna bid off the RJ?



Nope RJ for life.


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