Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 2653642)

schedulers are trying anything to get you on a trip - legal or otherwise.

Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2653662)

The math, from Cheddar’s numbers, above -

Using DAL 16.68 pilots per plane and AA 951 planes:

16.68 x 951 = 15,863 Pilots needed.

14,599 pilots today

15,863 - 14,599 = 1,264 Pilots needed to hire
in addition to increasing retirements/early outs/growth.

Hiring plans for this year are 900 (or 930). Mandatory retirement is 528. Doesn’t sound like much of this year’s hires is to improve, mostly hold the current pilots/plane.

Mandatory retirement ramps up to 957 in just a few years. And the Schoolhouse is maxed out today. Sounds like a big expansion is needed.

As the Chinese expression goes, ‘May you live in interesting times.’ And for the first time in decades, pilots are going to be in the driver’s seat (no pun intended).

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw (Post 2653659)

3P/BASE/SEAT/EQUIPMENT/DIVISION

For example, 3P/DFW/CA/787/I

Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2653661)

AApilots > Pilot Hiring > Orientation > Pilot Vacancy Bidding (on right side)

Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 2653682)

Yeah, I think the airline is just starting to see how far in the hole we are.

Originally Posted by redbaronahp (Post 2653996)

You say that but last week in class one of the VP’s came in and said that hiring is now projected at 750 for the year. Hopefully they can find a way to get up to the 900-930 that they had been saying.

Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2654029)

If hiring is projected to be 750, the rest of the classes would need to average 24, the lowest of any class all year. If that is the case, the first class in August resuming 40 in the class does not make sense.

Of course, I earlier heard hiring would be limited to 500. That would be less than current already starting in classes (529+/-) and less than the mandatory retirement number (528). So I have safely disregarded that forecast.

Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 2654058)

I also think that’s about 300 over this years retirements. That’s hiring for 3% growth, so I’d say we are trying to catch up but can’t due to training issues. We’re going to have issues when 900/year are leaving.


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Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2654089)

If only somebody could have seen this coming.