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Sliceback 07-22-2018 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2640119)
Any idea what the most junior long call reserve and line holding 777 FO is?

Junior G4 FO line holder typically is very close to being able to hold CA. I've posted the junior CA data so a line holding G4 FO is close to that. That's about your answer for each base.

In DFW and LGA(JFK) the difference between junior CA and line holding 777 FO was 100-150 numbers for August.

For a snapshot of today that's close enough. It might, and could, change.

ORDinary 07-22-2018 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2639936)
Junior FO's DOH -

BOS 2/2018
DCA 6/2018
DFW 1/2018
ORD 8/2014
PHX 7/2017

CLT - 3/2017

JFK, LAX, MIA, PHL (190) going to new hires.

CLT/PHL 320 openings have dried up. No movement(PHL had one guy come in on the 320). If newbies want to get to PHL the 190 is the way to do it. How knows how many guys are asking for the PHL 320 bid??

Congrats to everyone (except ORD..)

m78fl370 07-22-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2640254)
In many regards but as those LAA got theirs at the top and LUS didn’t. Some on the bottom got hosed. Add in the LAWA we can all just move on and agree nothing ever is perfect.

Nobody took it in the shorts like the poor TWA guys though. 2012 hires senior to some of them.

meyers9163 07-22-2018 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by m78fl370 (Post 2640432)
Nobody took it in the shorts like the poor TWA guys though. 2012 hires senior to some of them.

Think it’s all perspective. Relative seniority is relative seniority. However ask those 88-90 hires at LUS who are 5000 numbers behind others same year? So again many Can complain and did. However let’s move on. Many have indeed.

SilverandSore 07-22-2018 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by nAAtive (Post 2640208)
What you just said points out how wrong the sli was....


Exactly! Should have stapled the legacy guys, they were, after all, in bankruptcy! Amiright!!? :D

Rawhide16 07-22-2018 04:25 PM

What does the merger and SLI have to do with the Dec vacancy award? Take it outside fellas.

N10DJ 07-22-2018 04:34 PM

Two questions. How are they determining the LUS east pilots who get one of the SLI gp 4 bids.
It seems like it went extremely junior.. unless they all are seriously that junior.

Second, when does the seat lock start if they withhold you.

meyers9163 07-22-2018 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by N10DJ (Post 2640611)
Two questions. How are they determining the LUS east pilots who get one of the SLI gp 4 bids.
It seems like it went extremely junior.. unless they all are seriously that junior.

Second, when does the seat lock start if they withhold you.

They would have been a lot closer at stand alone LUS. Problem is when the SLI staggers things greatly you then have huge numbers of LAA pilots between LUS pilots who are entitled to those jobs because of them SLI language. Same complaint the above guy had about TWA pilots between 2013 hires. The list worked out that way.... It is what it is.

mainlineAF 07-22-2018 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by N10DJ (Post 2640611)
Two questions. How are they determining the LUS east pilots who get one of the SLI gp 4 bids.

It seems like it went extremely junior.. unless they all are seriously that junior.



Second, when does the seat lock start if they withhold you.



If i remember correctly there’s a set number of g4 captain positions that have to go to LUS pilots. That’s the number of g4 captain seats that LUS brought to the merger. As LAA pilots bid to the 330 that opens up 787/777 spots for LUS guys. That number is protected for 5 years from SLI i believe.

Your seat lock starts when you are released
from your withhold. So if you get a position on the June bid but are withheld and then released on the December bid your seat lock starts in December.

N10DJ 07-22-2018 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2640671)
If i remember correctly there’s a set number of g4 captain positions that have to go to LUS pilots. That’s the number of g4 captain seats that LUS brought to the merger. As LAA pilots bid to the 330 that opens up 787/777 spots for LUS guys. That number is protected for 5 years from SLI i believe.

Your seat lock starts when you are released
from your withhold. So if you get a position on the June bid but are withheld and then released on the December bid your seat lock starts in December.

I was afraid you would say that. Here's to hoping I get released sooner rather than later. Thanks


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