Battlinbear21

Dos Gringos wasn’t plying loud enough in the background of the A’20s.

CowboyPilot79

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isuguy

I feel like I’ve seen this on the forum somewhere before, but here’s a hypothetical....

Say u live somewhere that has one plane, but not the other in base(73/320). Unfortunately ur not old enough in Indoc to get that plane that is in ur base. Is it ever possible after that day to change equipment pre class start? If not, u can wait 6 months post training then change equipment?

Rawhide16

The easiest and fastest way would be to try and get the same airplane in a different base if the base you want isn't available. You can bid to change bases either on the next vacancy bid or via Mutual Base Exchange. A seat lock only applies to changing aircraft...not bases. Although, I'm not sure if you can be awarded a base via MBE if it makes you the junior pilot in base.

If you can't get the same airplane then you'll have to wait until your 6 months are up as you'll be seat locked. You can bid off on the next vacancy but you won't be given a class date until the expiration of your seat lock.

I recommend not bidding the 190 if you're itching to get somewhere else fast. You're highly likely to be withheld on the 190 for up to a year from the effective date of the vacancy.

Wingnut64

Howdy all,

I'm most interested in a DFW base, any equipment. Can anyone give an educated guess on the expected timeframe for upgrade in DFW?

I'm trying to weigh the opportunity at AA against some other carriers, but its difficult to compare when the time for upgrade is unknown.

Thanks!

viper548

I've been here almost 5 years and I project it will be another 2 years to upgrade in DFW. The junior CA in DFW has been trending more and more junior over the last couple years. Upgrade times in general have been dropping at most of the bases. For someone hired today, using projected retirement numbers, it would take 5.5 years to get to the seniority number of the junior DFW CA (10,4xx june bid). The junior CA in DFW was an 8xxx number last year, so it's dropped about 2000 numbers in the last few bids. A couple years ago the junior 737/A320 was 9xxx and now it's 12,3xx.

If I were to guess for someone hired today, I'd go with just under 5 years for DFW CA. DFW is supposed to be growing this year and 44% of the DFW captains retire in the next 5 years.

The Junior CA, 12,3xx is right at 5 years and is PHL. LAX and DCA are at 12,000 for the junior CA. LGA is 11,500, MIA 11,000

Wingnut64

Thanks Viper! That is the type of info I was looking for.

RhinoBallAuto

Only thing to keep in mind is that a pretty large portion of that growth will come from the S80 sundown. There are 337 bodies that will need homes, and even with the 320/737 growth in the next three months, you will see an overall decline in NB seats in DFW through October (ref the Aug vacancy message). Time will tell if they stay in Big D or venture elsewhere...

Aug CAs FOs
320 401 394
737 384 371
S80 170 167
Total 955 932


Oct CAs FOs
320 472 466
737 435 404
S80 0 0
Total 907 870

donkedPilot

Many of the S80 pilots will be tied up in a training cycle during some portion of these months

viper548

The growth in DFW is supposed to come from us taking some B gates from Eagle (six I think) and Eagle will get some gates at the remote E terminal. I have no idea how this is supposed to work with 350 MD-80 guys needing training at the same time. It will be interesting to see where they all go. There are quite a few senior guys on the MD-80, so they have lots of options. I have no idea how many of them are commute vs. live in base.

Maybe other bases are covering the additional DFW flights. I believe DFW will also be adding 787 flying next year, though that may just be replacing 757 flying.