PHL 76 Seniority
12-13-2018, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gijoe411
Why does the 76 in PHL go so junior? Lowest Seniority number is 14,000
Pay isn't much higher than the airbus but you'll be on reserve much longer. Reserve on the 76 pays less than holding a line on the A320.
12-13-2018, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD
Group 3 pay is only marginally higher than 2. Taking a quick look at 3XP, I’d be about 25% more senior in a Group 2 seat. That extra bidding power is worth a lot more to me than the 7 bucks per hour.
12-13-2018, 07:18 AM
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Group 3 is crappy group 4 international flying (IMO) for slightly above group 2 pay.
Idc if it’s only 2 legs a trip. Flying all night to then layover for 24 hours and then wake up at 0200 body clock would crush me. No thanks. Well at least not for anything less than g4 captain pay.
Idc if it’s only 2 legs a trip. Flying all night to then layover for 24 hours and then wake up at 0200 body clock would crush me. No thanks. Well at least not for anything less than g4 captain pay.
12-13-2018, 08:58 AM
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It's great flying if you can swing the body clock stuff. It's two tough alarm clocks per trip.
The 'worst' trip is Shanwick. As one guy said "I love Shanwick!!" That's the worst layover. What's the next worst? Amsterdam?
Shanwick you can go golfing in a place called Ireland.
Bologna might be one of the worst. Near a place called Tuscany.
Berlin? Too much WWII history.
Dubrovnik? Too many tourists because it's such a cool town. UNESCO stuff.
But why is it junior? Right now less than 50% of the bid status has a schedule. So you sit at home waiting for the phone to ring, day after day after day. It's brutal. About 2/3's of the reserve guys have flown one day or less. 58% have yet to fly this month. Who wants to sit around and never fly? ;-)
The 'worst' trip is Shanwick. As one guy said "I love Shanwick!!" That's the worst layover. What's the next worst? Amsterdam?
Shanwick you can go golfing in a place called Ireland.
Bologna might be one of the worst. Near a place called Tuscany.
Berlin? Too much WWII history.
Dubrovnik? Too many tourists because it's such a cool town. UNESCO stuff.
But why is it junior? Right now less than 50% of the bid status has a schedule. So you sit at home waiting for the phone to ring, day after day after day. It's brutal. About 2/3's of the reserve guys have flown one day or less. 58% have yet to fly this month. Who wants to sit around and never fly? ;-)
12-13-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
It's great flying if you can swing the body clock stuff. It's two tough alarm clocks per trip.
The 'worst' trip is Shanwick. As one guy said "I love Shanwick!!" That's the worst layover. What's the next worst? Amsterdam?
Shanwick you can go golfing in a place called Ireland.
Bologna might be one of the worst. Near a place called Tuscany.
Berlin? Too much WWII history.
Dubrovnik? Too many tourists because it's such a cool town. UNESCO stuff.
But why is it junior? Right now less than 50% of the bid status has a schedule. So you sit at home waiting for the phone to ring, day after day after day. It's brutal. About 2/3's of the reserve guys have flown one day or less. 58% have yet to fly this month. Who wants to sit around and never fly? ;-)
The 'worst' trip is Shanwick. As one guy said "I love Shanwick!!" That's the worst layover. What's the next worst? Amsterdam?
Shanwick you can go golfing in a place called Ireland.
Bologna might be one of the worst. Near a place called Tuscany.
Berlin? Too much WWII history.
Dubrovnik? Too many tourists because it's such a cool town. UNESCO stuff.
But why is it junior? Right now less than 50% of the bid status has a schedule. So you sit at home waiting for the phone to ring, day after day after day. It's brutal. About 2/3's of the reserve guys have flown one day or less. 58% have yet to fly this month. Who wants to sit around and never fly? ;-)
I should have mentioned I wouldn’t want to fly a block of international. 5 trips a month of that would suck.
Now living in base on short call and never flying would be different.
12-13-2018, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
The 'worst' trip is Shanwick. As one guy said "I love Shanwick!!" That's the worst layover.
Shannon is a fantastic layover! Limerick is a beautiful little town! The trip sucks because it's the only oceanic trip on the airplane with two pilots. You're exhausted!
12-13-2018, 11:09 AM
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I think one of the prime reasons is that people realize it's a dying airplane. The flying is shrinking on it and its days are numbered. It's been that way for years...even back at US Airways. I'm extremely thankful I got to try the flying and I'll always cherish the 757/767 type on my certificate, but being on a dying fleet is no fun.
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