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Boeing77 06-03-2019 02:11 PM

777 & 787
 
Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?

airlinegypsy 06-03-2019 02:23 PM

Rough guess, at least 5-6 years if hired today.


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PRS Guitars 06-03-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Boeing77 (Post 2830939)
Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?

Been here 5.5 years and can’t hold it. I think it will drop to 3 to 4 years eventually though.

Andrew_VT 06-03-2019 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2830950)
Been here 5.5 years and can’t hold it. I think it will drop to 3 to 4 years eventually though.

5.5 years holds 777 FO in JFK (sen. 11990)

PRS Guitars 06-03-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 2831014)
5.5 years holds 777 FO in JFK (sen. 11990)

Yeah, you got me, I’ve actually only been here 5 years and 5 months...so maybe 5.4 years, can’t hold it, close though.

Andrew_VT 06-03-2019 05:07 PM

Junior pilot is 15100 on the current list I think.

So someone hired today could be a group 4 FO in 3.5 years if we hire/retire 900/yr for the next few years (all else staying the same).

We're also trading 767s for 787s in the next few years.

We could also see our stock price cut in half yet again in even less time, so who knows.

OverspeedCowboy 06-03-2019 05:16 PM

Are you in "training" in Afghanistan?


2-posts...


https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/u...787-777-a.html


Originally Posted by Boeing77 (Post 2830939)
Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?


Originally Posted by Boeing77 (Post 2830943)
Hey, I’m considering United and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?


Boeing77 06-03-2019 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by OverspeedCowboy (Post 2831043)
Are you in "training" in Afghanistan?


2-posts...


https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/u...787-777-a.html

Nope, United and American are just my top two choices.

PRS Guitars 06-03-2019 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by OverspeedCowboy (Post 2831043)
Are you in "training" in Afghanistan?


2-posts...


https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/u...787-777-a.html

Yeah, it’s a strange question, I just figured he’s a kid.

drinksonme 06-03-2019 07:23 PM

5.5 years, I am now 787 DFW. Just held it on bid from January, so just over 5 to hold. As a note, it all depends on what people put in their “preference bid”.

There are many people senior to me that can hold it, but didn’t have it in their preference bid and thus will not be awarded it unless they change their bid. That’s why even people junior to me, less than 5 years when awarded, hold 777 and 787. It’s a risk/reward call to bid it for junior pilots. I won’t be off reserve for years, but was still getting reserve on the BUS because of my base seniority from time to time based on days off in my PBS bid. Figured if I am going to get reserve, might as well have better pay, and based on open time, fly much less.

Now that being said, with a displacement bid, and one currently being processed, I can see many of the junior pilots, especially junior seniority, being displaced on this bid. However, they all, as very junior pilots in the pilot group, will get displacement rights and get back to the plane(s) before senior pilots to them with vacancies.


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