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SheepDogg 07-09-2019 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2848507)
Not sure if you are more of a dope for leaving Envoy or this Allegiant guy. Guess he was fired though and had a reason. Your "decision" was just mega dumb.

We all have to choose what course in life is best for us. Its not really fair to call someone's choice dumb. There is so many variables that we cannot predict or control. Many variables are individual specific, such as commuting or not, the city we live in etc etc. None of us will know if we have chosen the best course until after we have retired.

cr700 07-10-2019 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by SheepDogg (Post 2850024)
We all have to choose what course in life is best for us. Its not really fair to call someone's choice dumb. There is so many variables that we cannot predict or control. Many variables are individual specific, such as commuting or not, the city we live in etc etc. None of us will know if we have chosen the best course until after we have retired.

Cool story bro. I'm calling a spade a spade. Giving up a seat at AA for Allegiant or any other bottom of the barrel LCC is a really dumb move. Huge loss in total career earnings and no guarantees working for said carrier. Allegiant, Spirit, Frontier, any of them plus others could be bankrupt or out of business at the next downturn. Enjoy that furlough while the Envoy pilot is now comfortable in an AA seat.

Name User 07-10-2019 09:57 AM

Personally I for sure would've left Envoy for Spirit in 2014. AA had just come out of bankruptcy. Spirit has an extremely good management team. AA was being led by Parkem' (enough said). Spirit's costs are half of ours. They are growing hand over fist and will continue to do so.

at6d 07-11-2019 02:32 PM

This isn’t new Envoy. This is the same **** from 1998 on, just with new pilots.

AAfng 07-12-2019 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2850671)
Cool story bro. I'm calling a spade a spade. Giving up a seat at AA for Allegiant or any other bottom of the barrel LCC is a really dumb move. Huge loss in total career earnings and no guarantees working for said carrier. Allegiant, Spirit, Frontier, any of them plus others could be bankrupt or out of business at the next downturn. Enjoy that furlough while the Envoy pilot is now comfortable in an AA seat.

You are crazy. I am at AA but those LCC's are not bad jobs and in many ways better than AA. Have you seen Spirits and Allegiants contracts? not too shabby. If Allegiant flew out my hometown I would give up a couple of years of senority at AA and head on over.

rld1k 07-13-2019 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by AAfng (Post 2852373)
You are crazy. I am at AA but those LCC's are not bad jobs and in many ways better than AA. Have you seen Spirits and Allegiants contracts? not too shabby. If Allegiant flew out my hometown I would give up a couple of years of senority at AA and head on over.

Cr700 works in envoy management. We have to listen to his propaganda all the time on the envoy forum

ORDinary 07-13-2019 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2852538)
Cr700 works in envoy management. We have to listen to his propaganda all the time on the envoy forum

This. He's been at it for years.

Iowa Farm Boy 07-15-2019 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2852538)
Cr700 works in envoy management. We have to listen to his propaganda all the time on the envoy forum

Unless of course you blocked him years ago. Honestly I’d forgot about him. Just wish 1) he’d stay in his cubicle; 2) he’d stay in the ENY Forum; and 3) people quoting him didn’t show his posts.


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