Had 2 in my class this year who had parents who fly or flew for AA. One was from Skywest, the other from Spirit.

Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge the fact that having a family member in the company helped them get where they are needs a reality check.

My point was simply that it isn’t a given, as illustrated by the fact that many who don’t put in the effort don’t get the call. Or worse, get the call and don’t get invited to class.

Worked out pretty well, huh?

How is sharing one pilots experience trashing the interview process? The story is true. This was about 3 years ago now...

I always lol’ed @ the guys flying RJs for airways who didn’t apply there. Like flying a 50 seat contract jet was a better idea than going to airways [emoji849][emoji849]

Because it’s an extreme outlier if true, which I don’t believe it is, what’s your motivation for posting this? I was hired from a wholly owned and the interviewers said “we’re so glad we got you before Delta did,” I was in class 4 weeks later.


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maybe you are the outlier?

Pretty sure that is not the right attitude for APC. /S

Good for you.

I have a friend who's a captain at Skywest. He has about 6 LOR's from AA pilots. He's updated his apps after every trip for years. He's a former electrical engineer who worked for Boeing for a few years. He's been to the Job Fairs, including OBAP last month.

Guess what? He got a call from FedEx for an interview. He's ecstatic. I wrote a nice email to Recruitment the following week imploring them to call him for an interview, or risk losing him to FedEx.

Crickets. As I expected.

As someone else said here, no one in Recruitment cares about any pilot heading to any of our competitors.

As an aside, I have a very good friend who's a narrowbody captain here. His son flew for Envoy for maybe two years or so. Maybe less. He was called for an interview and hired this Spring. I'm super happy for him, but it just reinforces the fact that having a parent who's a captain here at AA carries HUGE weight.

Another point of data for you. A friend who was also a SkyWest Capt doing C17 reserves; formerly an AA intern. He didn’t get called for an interview until after he finished FedEx IOE in 2016.

Two FOs at SkyWest, neither had any PIC, but both had parents at AA, left SkyWest in 2013.

So not even an internship trumps parental pull!

To be fair, it was a substantial pay cut to come to Airways back then. Ask me how I know. But, I was willing to play the long game and it turns out that LUS was a nice little side door into AA. It’s a shame it’s so tough for civilian street guys now.

Yeah people applying in 2010/2011/2012/even 2013 took a risk. As a Capt on an RJ guys were making above the topped out FOs at Airways and if you hustled, as much or more than their Airbus Capts (remember back then upgrade was over 25 years).

I remember talking to someone in the CLT shared crew room, they lived in Dallas and had turned down an offer from Airways in 2012(?). They "didn't want to commute their whole life". Ha.

I knew a few who left for Airways in 2008 or maybe 2007 and were furloughed even.

For anyone single or married with a wife who had a good job it was a good risk to take, but there were many sole breadwinners I flew with in the RJ that couldn't foreseeably take that Airways job. The pay was abysmal.

Should have clarified i meant the younger guys. Flew with many who were mid to late 20s and didn’t apply to airways. That was just dumb.

Or a husband. Did you not complete your implicit bias training? :D

Well I call this settled it would be great to see family hires on the pie chart at the end of the year.

Did you know you can use multiple iPads to complete DL modules as the same time?

I'm not saying I endorse it but I'm just saying I personally have my company iPad, my iPad, and my wife's. So, I mean, in theory, I could do three DL modules concurrently.

Also for those who commute to DFW you can get A1 passes to complete a module before a trip and go home A3 afterward...

He-now, just because he said wife doesn't mean he isn't a woman....

I know 5 females that got hired off the street recently. It is possible for some.