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FredFlyer 01-16-2020 03:26 AM

One of my UPT classmates, whose last assignment was flying AF2, separated and had his own business for a couple years(?). When he decided to pursue the majors, he did the Afghanistan MC-12 gig for a brief stint. AA hired him shortly afterwards.


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RI830 01-16-2020 07:43 AM

To the OP, there is no magic number. It’s all an algorithm....your military experience helps greatly regarding the lack of recency.
I am in the same boat you are....I went to instruct at the school house for the last 2yrs and lost the recency. Without military background, I’m told around 200-250 hrs in the past year will get my app above the “You’re NOT Worthy” threshold.

Good luck!!

Liketoflyjets 01-20-2020 07:04 AM

There are no more commitments for flying training..only for PCS...From what you wrote it sounds like you either mis-spoke or you mis-explained.

Liketoflyjets 01-20-2020 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2956715)
If you have over 20yrs military and haven't flown in the last 5+ yrs, you either didn't like it, or weren't very good at it, or both.

This guy knows what he's talking about....

Copper 01-20-2020 09:32 AM

I’m an ex fighter guy too. I took 12 years off to raise my kids. I did go regional to get current and yes, each company jumped to hire me with little recency. Training was not an issue either. Went through with zero issues. I was Stan Eval and not sure if that made a difference but if you buckle down and study how we were training in the military you’ll be just fine! Good luck and see you in the majors soon. Also, stop listening to everyone who say military fails at regional level. They are confusing Helo transfers and fix wing guys. Fix wing mil guys are doing just fine in training.

PM me if you want advise one on one.

RI830 01-20-2020 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Liketoflyjets (Post 2960426)
There are no more commitments for flying training..only for PCS...From what you wrote it sounds like you either mis-spoke or you mis-explained.

Please explain. Who are you referencing and what it PCS?

Liketoflyjets 01-20-2020 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 2960578)
Please explain. Who are you referencing and what it PCS?

As of last summer the USAF doesn't tack on a 3 year service commitment for any flying training except undergraduate and test/weapons school.

What they still do is tack on a service commitment for PCS (permanent change of station)...i.e. MOVING your stuff to a new base.

The rub is that most people who attend new flying training typically move, except when they don't. So attend IP upgrade at your current base? No commitment. Move to a completely new base to attend T-6 training with follow on assignment? PCS commitment.

I ops tested this..attended 3 different initial qual courses in 2 years..no commitments..retirement approved.

flyguy06 01-21-2020 11:59 AM

Gents, good insight and that's what I need. Not flying wasn't a matter of not liking/not being "good" but rather lifestyle choice that served my family well as we decided to finish out a 20 year career. Apps are in progress!

Skylarking 01-27-2020 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy06 (Post 2961201)
Gents, good insight and that's what I need. Not flying wasn't a matter of not liking/not being "good" but rather lifestyle choice that served my family well as we decided to finish out a 20 year career. Apps are in progress!

One more retired MIL perspective. I retired with 4,000 MIL FW hrs (E-2/C-40) but hadn’t flown for 10 years and was hired by SkyWest. Can’t speak to other regionals but SkW has been a great place to regain currency. PM me if you want. Happy to give you more feed back.

TwinTandem 01-29-2020 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Liketoflyjets (Post 2960429)
This guy knows what he's talking about....

No he/she doesn’t. Someone watching too many Top Gun 2 trailers. Sorry. However to the subject of currency, yes it matters. 121 experience is great and regionals are better than they’ve been in the past. Do your time and you’ll be fine, plus better for knowing what the other side is up to and realize there are excellent folks at the majors and the regionals.


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