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FNGFO 03-17-2020 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3000973)
the govt is mandating curfews and shelter in place. an estimated 1M restaurant workers alone will soon be unemployed.

where is their bailout

It’s called unemployment benefits, and the checks will cash just fine.

mainlineAF 03-17-2020 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by iHateAMR (Post 3001018)
if they don’t have the discretionary income to travel, eat out, shop, etc, then no. Get over yourself.



Watching AA go through this is like a wet dream for you. What a sad person you are.

senecacaptain 03-17-2020 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3000974)
Will the world function without most of them?

you mean like if most of the below cease to exist and operate ?

JetBlue
Frontier
Spirit
Allegient
Sun Country
UAL
AA
DAL
Hawaiian
Alaska
Southwest

Uhhh.....

* The entire world is suffering in some form or manner from this....every industry could use a "bail out"

AirbusPTC 03-17-2020 08:18 AM

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It was ridiculous in 2018...even more so now.

Attachment 5091

JulesWinfield 03-17-2020 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by AirbusPTC (Post 3001311)
It was ridiculous in 2018...even more so now.

Attachment 5091

He was probably drunk

full of luv 03-17-2020 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3001085)
But my understanding is that during a bankruptcy, if it were to happen, we could very well have things forced down our throats that we don't agree to.

That will be an understatement if you end up in BK court.
BK in itself is VERY EXPENSIVE, $100's of millions down the rathole of lawyers fees and other costs that do nothing to help the operation, or pay employees more. It lasts a long time and costs so much that the company has no choice but to go for the jugular so that they can get new financing to rebuild the airline at a new improved cost structure.

BurnerAccount69 03-17-2020 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3001302)
you mean like if most of the below cease to exist and operate ?

JetBlue
Frontier
Spirit
Allegient
Sun Country
UAL
AA
DAL
Hawaiian
Alaska
Southwest

Uhhh.....

* The entire world is suffering in some form or manner from this....every industry could use a "bail out"

Big daddy gov is gonna print money and give them all $1000, and they'll get unemployment if they get laid off. So don't act like they aren't getting something. The world will have to cook for 2 weeks, OMG!!! Worst case scenario, you can eat all the toilet paper you hoarded.

Itsajob 03-17-2020 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 3000770)
What percent of major corporations, not to mention our government and military, depend on passenger carrying airlines?

Thousands of companies and millions of employees would be adversely affected if we all went out of business.

Again, it doesn't matter what we think. No one cares that we think.


The airlines are the size that they are because the vast majority of people want to fly, not because they really need to. Businesses prefer a face to face meeting and a handshake, but the same meeting could be held with a teleconference. People enjoy vacation travel, but there really isn’t a need to go sit on a beach in the Caribbean. Most of us are employed because the public prefers to buy our services, not because the world will stop spinning if global aviation gets cut in half. This is hitting the travel industry hard. It is also hitting other industries hard. Should bailouts go to concert halls, restaurants, convention centers, etc, as well? Where would it stop? Demand will return at some point. The market will direct the industry how to react to what ever the new normal is.

Arado 234 03-18-2020 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3001550)
Big daddy gov is gonna print money and give them all $1000, and they'll get unemployment if they get laid off. So don't act like they aren't getting something. The world will have to cook for 2 weeks, OMG!!! Worst case scenario, you can eat all the toilet paper you hoarded.

Pax are now stealing tp from the aircraft. WTF?

Purpleanga 03-18-2020 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 3000717)
Who cares what we think about them? the economy would collapse as a result, everyone in the country would be worse off. We would all be out of jobs.

rd.


This is true under normal events but this is different, there’s no passengers that need the service. I say shut it down temporarily instead of flying empty planes around costing tax payers 50 billion. Even if there is a bailout get ready to fly for min wage.


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