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APCHCLIMB 10-22-2020 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3148690)
I thought American and Qatar are already code share partners.

im talking a significant takeover of the wide body international flying. Meaning you won’t ever see it in your career bc it will all be farmed out to the ME3

N6279P 10-22-2020 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 3148570)
the "Big 3" will largely be narrow-body companies soon.

Except for United, they aren’t retiring any wide bodies.

Andrew_VT 10-22-2020 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 3148780)
Except for United, they aren’t retiring any wide bodies.

If the ME3 are allowed to take over the WB flying for any of the big 3 it won't matter how many wide bodies United has.

No way they can compete with attractive $15/hr flight attendants, govt subsidized planes, $10/hr mechanics, $5/hr cleaners...

SoFloFlyer 10-24-2020 09:20 PM

Purely speculation, but maybe that new airline Global X will buy some or all of the A330s since it’s part of their WB plan?

Varsity 10-25-2020 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 3148825)
If the ME3 are allowed to take over the WB flying for any of the big 3 it won't matter how many wide bodies United has.

No way they can compete with attractive $15/hr flight attendants, govt subsidized planes, $10/hr mechanics, $5/hr cleaners...

Friendly flight attendants would be enough to take down United. In-flight is close to con-air with grandma guards.

My European colleagues don’t understand how the airline continues to exist with customer facing employees like that.

Hedley 10-25-2020 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 3148780)
Except for United, they aren’t retiring any wide bodies.

Aren’t retiring any yet. We have a bunch of old 757’s, 767-300’s, and a few 767-400’s. Pre-COVID they were wanting a replacement, but they didn’t like the available options being that the 797 didn’t materialize. The max will do everything that the 757 does domestically, the 321xlr will do everything that the 757 did over the Atlantic, and the 767 fleet really isn’t needed right now, possibly for the next couple of years. If long haul demand does take 3-4 years like many analysts think it will, I wouldn’t want to bet that the 756 will be in the fleet in a year.

sky jet 10-25-2020 03:50 PM

Just to clarify. A330F factory freighters have extended nose gears with the blister to house the longer gear. This provides a flat sitting floor for easier loading and unloading of freight. Passenger to freighter conversions do not lengthen the gear. The engineering is cost prohibitive. A quick search will show you pictures of both types being operated by DHL or their contracted airlines.

JimLaheyTPS 10-27-2020 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3149756)
Friendly flight attendants would be enough to take down United. In-flight is close to con-air with grandma guards.

My European colleagues don’t understand how the airline continues to exist with customer facing employees like that.

That’s funny you say that about United in flight, as my Asian and Australian based colleagues say the same thing about AA in flight.

FlyyGuyy 10-27-2020 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS (Post 3150549)
That’s funny you say that about United in flight, as my Asian and Australian based colleagues say the same thing about AA in flight.

The FAs suck at all the majors. Rude. Condescending. Old. Miserable. They need a mandatory retirement age. And accountability.

bababouey 10-27-2020 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS (Post 3150549)
That’s funny you say that about United in flight, as my Asian and Australian based colleagues say the same thing about AA in flight.


We already had the meanest and laziest of all the airlines, and now we just furloughed the 8100 newest #goingforgreat


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