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SonicFlyer 06-20-2021 08:12 PM

Pilot shortage: AA cancelled 100's of flights
 
Hundreds of American flights cancelled due to pilot shortage:


https://airlinegeeks.com/2021/06/19/...ilot-shortage/

loganeich 06-21-2021 03:50 AM

I just passed my ATP with minimum times and my sister sent me a similar link saying I should apply. I explained that the issue was likely due to training and lining everyone back up to the correct equipment. I do think a real shortage is coming. Once my daughter can drive and I finish getting my finances in order, then I’ll take the plunge. 40K a year, here I come!

Twin Wasp 06-21-2021 03:53 AM

Well, in the article American says it’s a shortage at their vendors and I don’t think Aa contracts their flying. And the article says the problem is their pilots aren’t current so not really a shortage.

El Peso 06-21-2021 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by loganeich (Post 3252614)
I just passed my ATP with minimum times and my sister sent me a similar link saying I should apply. I explained that the issue was likely due to training and lining everyone back up to the correct equipment. I do think a real shortage is coming. Once my daughter can drive and I finish getting my finances in order, then I’ll take the plunge. 40K a year, here I come!

I don’t really understand this post. AA doesn’t hire with ATP minimums, and AA pilots don’t make 40k a year. Are talking about applying to Eagle?

loganeich 06-21-2021 04:06 AM

Yes, I know AA doesn’t hire at ATP mins and they don’t pay 40K a year. My point is the article implies AA has a shortage of pilots which is likely not the case. My family is curious with articles like these why I can’t just start at a legacy.

My wife also thinks I’m crazy for leaving a six figure job for starting FO pay at a regional. The title of the article is very misleading.

Texasbound 06-21-2021 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by loganeich (Post 3252619)
Yes, I know AA doesn’t hire at ATP mins and they don’t pay 40K a year. My point is the article implies AA has a shortage of pilots which is likely not the case. My family is curious with articles like these why I can’t just start at a legacy.

My wife also thinks I’m crazy for leaving a six figure job for starting FO pay at a regional. The title of the article is very misleading.

The titles of all articles are misleading. The titles are written to generate clicks and the articles are written for entertainment. They are light on facts, because most facts are boring.

Speed Select 06-21-2021 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by loganeich (Post 3252619)
My wife also thinks I’m crazy for leaving a six figure job for starting FO pay at a regional.

Why ARE you leaving a six-figure job to start at a regional? Unless you’re a military pilot, I don’t understand why you would do this.

Regional and even mainline QOL isn’t as competitive to non-flying careers as it used to be: 4-5 legs a day, commuting, poor entry pay, deicing, short layovers, dealing with the craziness of post-CV travel, and the overall instability of the industry, I’m not sure why anyone other than military (who have or will have a pension, and have few other marketable skills) would want to get in this industry, especially from a six-figure career.

Sike 06-21-2021 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 3252636)
The titles of all articles are misleading. The titles are written to generate clicks and the articles are written for entertainment. They are light on facts, because most facts are boring.

If I were to summarize the last decade in three sentences, I would use these three sentences.

Bergman 06-21-2021 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 3252680)
Why ARE you leaving a six-figure job to start at a regional? Unless you’re a military pilot, I don’t understand why you would do this.

Regional and even mainline QOL isn’t as competitive to non-flying careers as it used to be: 4-5 legs a day, commuting, poor entry pay, deicing, short layovers, dealing with the craziness of post-CV travel, and the overall instability of the industry, I’m not sure why anyone other than military (who have or will have a pension, and have few other marketable skills) would want to get in this industry, especially from a six-figure career.

There’s a difference between a $100k office job with 3% annual raise potential while working 40-60 hours a week , versus an FO making $250k after 5 years, working 12 days a month, with a potential $100k/yr raise when they upgrade.

AllYourBaseAreB 06-21-2021 07:59 AM

What’s wrong with deicing? Usually a money maker. No job is stable these days. There is no such thing as corporate loyalty. It’s nice to have a seniority list and to almost never see your boss or have performance evals….


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