Calling in sick more than 12 hours out.
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#12
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I stand by my solution of only assigning LC during DOTC. I’ve commuted to LC and SC. For SC I’m there and want to fly (which is another thing I’d like, is the ability for SC to ask to fly). For non commuters, SC are there and ready to fly as well. LC, I could always make it, but occasionally had to drive out to the airport ready to catch the last flight if I was number one in the queue just in case a last minute outside of DOTC popped up. Commute to sit in a crash pad on LC…no ****ing way I’d do that, rather just hold a line at that point.
And it’s not “screw the SC people”. The primary purpose of LC is to fill open trips that pilots haven’t picked up. The primary purpose of SC is last minute stuff like sick calls, time outs, pop up ferry flights, etc.
And it’s not “screw the SC people”. The primary purpose of LC is to fill open trips that pilots haven’t picked up. The primary purpose of SC is last minute stuff like sick calls, time outs, pop up ferry flights, etc.
#13
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From: HUD cripple.
I stand by my solution of only assigning LC during DOTC. I’ve commuted to LC and SC. For SC I’m there and want to fly (which is another thing I’d like, is the ability for SC to ask to fly). For non commuters, SC are there and ready to fly as well. LC, I could always make it, but occasionally had to drive out to the airport ready to catch the last flight if I was number one in the queue just in case a last minute outside of DOTC popped up. Commute to sit in a crash pad on LC…no ****ing way I’d do that, rather just hold a line at that point.
And it’s not “screw the SC people”. The primary purpose of LC is to fill open trips that pilots haven’t picked up. The primary purpose of SC is last minute stuff like sick calls, time outs, pop up ferry flights, etc.
And it’s not “screw the SC people”. The primary purpose of LC is to fill open trips that pilots haven’t picked up. The primary purpose of SC is last minute stuff like sick calls, time outs, pop up ferry flights, etc.
I'd rather "just hold a line" every month, but for many of us (myself included) thats not an option most of the time. As was stated above, commuting is a choice, one that I've made on and off for 17 years of my career. If you commute, and you cant hold a line (or bid reserve on purpose), you signed up for having to be able to cover any assignment you get within the contractual call out times, even if that means sitting in the crash pad on long call.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
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Why again is LC protected? Note: their are SC people based at home who also don’t appreciate working because someone decides to run the clock down on purpose. A reserve is a reserve, so be prepared to do what you are signed up for.
#16
I'd rather "just hold a line" every month, but for many of us (myself included) thats not an option most of the time. As was stated above, commuting is a choice, one that I've made on and off for 17 years of my career. If you commute, and you cant hold a line (or bid reserve on purpose), you signed up for having to be able to cover any assignment you get within the contractual call out times, even if that means sitting in the crash pad on long call.
I know my stance is unpopular with non commuters, that’s why I like the solution of assignments during DOTC only for LC, or even as someone else mentioned after DOTC no earlier than noon, or I’d take an 18 hour call out, outside of DOTC. These benefit everybody, not just commuters.
#17
Thats why I’d like to see an option for SC pilots to prefer to fly first (ahead of their group). It’s win/win. Commuter saves on hotels, local stays home.
#18
If I decide to bang in sick, a reserve is gonna have to get used one way or the other. The long calls are working more anyway, and there's a higher likelihood they're a commuter sitting at home. That doesn't mean it'll always be a short call sitting in a crashpad, but if I'm going be burning *someone*, I'm just playing the percentages of which dicking will likely be the least disruptive.
And I say this as guy that lives in base and bids short call if on reserve.
And I say this as guy that lives in base and bids short call if on reserve.
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2021
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How about calling in sick when you know you’re not going to work. Close to departure… why? That will most definitely screw someone one. We have reserve pilots for a reason, there is no need to RA someone to cover a sick call. Should go to Long Call, Short Call, and finally RA.
#20
Not sure that'll work. "Yeah scheduling? I need need to call out sick. No, not the upcoming trip on Thursday - the one at the end of the month. The four day. Yeah, that one - I don't fly four day trips. Thanks!" 
Although wasn't that pretty much how it was done at America West?

Although wasn't that pretty much how it was done at America West?
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