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En Garde 01-14-2024 01:30 PM

BOS Bus
 

Originally Posted by onetogo (Post 3751698)
disagree, but that’s cool.

the FO side is super junior with about the entire bottom 3rd of the list holding a base transfer award for the spring. On NB, no one who wants BOS is waiting. There is the BOS contingent senior enough to commute to WB FO, or NB CA. Personal preference.

NE director essentially confirmed that Airbus base will come to BOS, to include XLR flying.


so Bus is slated to come to BOS?

onetogo 01-14-2024 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by ACEssXfer (Post 3751704)
There are many many BOS locals that commute to the WB. There are also lots of CAs that cannot hold BOS. What exactly are you disagreeing with?

there being NB FO’s ‘waiting’ to come to BOS until more senior.

ACEssXfer 01-14-2024 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by onetogo (Post 3751869)
there being NB FO’s ‘waiting’ to come to BOS until more senior.

The OP didn’t specify CA or FO and I didn’t mention FOs.

He referenced WB or 737. There are definitely locals flying both not in BOS. Lots of them.

onetogo 01-14-2024 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by ACEssXfer (Post 3751956)
The OP didn’t specify CA or FO and I didn’t mention FOs.

Sorry, I thought he was asking specifically re the FO side.

Beech Dude 01-14-2024 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by En Garde (Post 3751753)
so Bus is slated to come to BOS?

Nope. Same as 73 PHX and PHL. Not anytime soon. Just rumor mill.

Sliceback 01-14-2024 06:40 PM

BOS has done this several times since 1987 - locked down tight, guys start pouring in...and then it locks down again. In 5, 10, 15, 20 years the same names are still there. Guys that don't make the upgrade cutoff end up commuting to NYC for the upgrade. FO decades ago was looking into BOS "things are moving fast there!" I told him it was fools gold.

Figure out the percentage of guys retiring out of the various bases in the next couple of years. Count the total of sub x thousand seniority numbers (10,000?). That's the new blood. Is there more new blood in the base then Captains that are going to retire in the next x years? How many new Captains that have more than x (10, 15, 20?) years to retirement? That might give you some inisight into the upgrade vs stagnation possibilities. Run imaginary 3XP's in 3, 5, 10 years after subtracting the future retirements. What does that show?

It's hard to predict the future but looking at data might be able to give you some insight.

En Garde 01-14-2024 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3752021)
BOS has done this several times since 1987 - locked down tight, guys start pouring in...and then it locks down again. In 5, 10, 15, 20 years the same names are still there. Guys that don't make the upgrade cutoff end up commuting to NYC for the upgrade. FO decades ago was looking into BOS "things are moving fast there!" I told him it was fools gold.

Figure out the percentage of guys retiring out of the various bases in the next couple of years. Count the total of sub x thousand seniority numbers (10,000?). That's the new blood. Is there more new blood in the base then Captains that are going to retire in the next x years? How many new Captains that have more than x (10, 15, 20?) years to retirement? That might give you some inisight into the upgrade vs stagnation possibilities. Run imaginary 3XP's in 3, 5, 10 years after subtracting the future retirements. What does that show?

It's hard to predict the future but looking at data might be able to give you some insight.

thanks..not on property yet so trying to gauge it best I can.

but from what your saying, probably staying a small stagnant base?

Beech Dude 01-15-2024 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by En Garde (Post 3752052)
thanks..not on property yet so trying to gauge it best I can.

but from what your saying, probably staying a small stagnant base?

Yes. He's on point. BOS movement is erratic and slow.

ACEssXfer 01-15-2024 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3752001)
Nope. Same as 73 PHX and PHL. Not anytime soon. Just rumor mill.

It's not really rumor mill. The VP of flight ops from NY just talked about it in an email. He said XLR flying will be done in BOS and a bus base will happen. He also said it isn't "weeks or months" away and that it was probably a lower priority than other new categories.

ACEssXfer 01-15-2024 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by En Garde (Post 3752052)
thanks..not on property yet so trying to gauge it best I can.

but from what your saying, probably staying a small stagnant base?

If you live in BOS it doesn't matter. A 20-30% bump in seniority isn't worth commuting. I'd take 90% living in base all day over 70% commuting.


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