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Fly76 , 08-25-2023 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DTswiss1100

What’s more of a safety concern is that our experienced instructors are being/will be replaced by first officers! This will include all training events during recurrent, transitions, and new hires so the company could save money by paying first officer rates. Jobs and invaluable experience lost, thanks to APA who approved it!!!

smh. My ground instructor had his PPL only I believe. He was thinking of going full training to become a pilot. My sim instructor was once a pilot then envoy, he then quick years ago to be home as a sim instructor, never touched any of our planes. Yea our FOs would be a terrible idea 🙄

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thrust , 08-25-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DTswiss1100

Better let UAL and Delta and ALPA know this

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Name User , 08-25-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DTswiss1100

I had new hire training here as a US Airways hire in mid 2010's. My sim instructor was an F/O at Airways and has been the best sim instructor I've had.

Apart from the A320 ride at Airways I also completed the S80, 757/767, 777, and 737 programs under AA.

The 75/76 sim instructor was a close second having medical'd out of an ACMI IIRC.

But by far the best instructor I had here was the F/O qualified line guy at Airways. This includes all of my recurrent training events.

The job of the sim instructor is to instruct on operation of the aircraft for the type ride, not regale you with stories about coulda woulda shoulda.

Respectfully, your opinion is baseless.

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hercretired , 08-25-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Hmmmmm...

During new hire training, I had a ground instructor who, while he was a pilot, had less than 1200 hours and was building time toward a job at Envoy. Had a sim instructor who, while he was a pilot, had been retired for a long while and had never flown the airplane he was teaching me, nor had he flown for AA.

I think hiring our FOs is probably a step up in both quality and in increasing pilot jobs. But yeah, I'd prefer these things go to Captains.

AA has First Officers that have 5000 hours in the Bus and were Captains at Avianca, Emirates, etc.

I think they can teach shutdown flows.

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highfarfast , 08-25-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hercretired

AA has First Officers that have 5000 hours in the Bus and were Captains at Avianca, Emirates, etc.

I think they can teach shutdown flows.

lol, reread my post. I think it s an improvement. Just wish it were captains since it would create a need for more higher paid captain positions.

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Red Forman , 08-25-2023 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

lol, reread my post. I think it s an improvement. Just wish it were captains since it would create a need for more higher paid captain positions.

You said it’s a safety concern that FOs will be instructors. If that isn’t denigrating them I don’t know what is.

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highfarfast , 08-25-2023 04:20 PM

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You said it’s a safety concern that FOs will be instructors. If that isn’t denigrating them I don’t know what is.

Where did I say that?

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Red Forman , 08-25-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Where did I say that?

My apologies, that’s what DTswiss1100 said.