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bababouey 10-08-2023 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3707545)
Hi folks,
Got my CJOs from both and on the verge of deciding now which would give me the better quality of life.
Just turned 52, no kids, just me and my wife.
Retirement numbers seem to favor American in the long term, but UA has many more wide-body planes coming online soon.
United has much younger pilot community, so not sure how my advanced age would fit into that group. At AA I would still feel on the young side I guess.
I really want to optimize my time at work and maximize my days off.
I don't mind which aircraft I am going to fly, but long term the bus is easier on the body, just more comfortable work environment.
Not really keen on jumping on the WB fleet any time soon, been doing that for the last couple of years and want to be in bed at night, not the bunk.
I want to stay in DC, not planning to move anywhere before I retire.
What do you think?

the only reason to choose AA is if you prefer driving to DCA and just wanted to stay narrow body for your shorter career. Otherwise United would be the play for me.

Myster 10-08-2023 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3707545)
Hi folks,
Got my CJOs from both and on the verge of deciding now which would give me the better quality of life.
Just turned 52, no kids, just me and my wife.
Retirement numbers seem to favor American in the long term, but UA has many more wide-body planes coming online soon.
United has much younger pilot community, so not sure how my advanced age would fit into that group. At AA I would still feel on the young side I guess.
I really want to optimize my time at work and maximize my days off.
I don't mind which aircraft I am going to fly, but long term the bus is easier on the body, just more comfortable work environment.
Not really keen on jumping on the WB fleet any time soon, been doing that for the last couple of years and want to be in bed at night, not the bunk.
I want to stay in DC, not planning to move anywhere before I retire.
What do you think?

I am in the same boat. Now that the dust has cleared and the contracts are ratified. Which airline is more solvent and better financially long term? Where can you upgrade faster? I came from flying WB’s for over 12 years. So I am not real concerned if I get back to that or not. I just need to get back in the left seat as quickly as possible. Any opinions will be appreciated.

motojet 10-08-2023 06:21 AM

One thing I would like to add about DCA and AA is that, if you ever get the wide body itch again, PHL is only about a 2.5 hour drive depending on where you live around DC. The 787 PHL is definitely doable sitting Long Call or even Short Call Reserve from DC.
That being said, I have been at American and based at DCA for over a year now, no regrets whatsoever.

Danny70 10-08-2023 06:28 AM

Any particular reason/s why?


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3707919)
the only reason to choose AA is if you prefer driving to DCA and just wanted to stay narrow body for your shorter career. Otherwise United would be the play for me.


Danny70 10-08-2023 06:32 AM

Thank you, how long can one expect to wait for the 787 FO in PHL in today's environment?


Originally Posted by motojet (Post 3707935)
One thing I would like to add about DCA and AA is that, if you ever get the wide body itch again, PHL is only about a 2.5 hour drive depending on where you live around DC. The 787 PHL is definitely doable sitting Long Call or even Short Call Reserve from DC.
That being said, I have been at American and based at DCA for over a year now, no regrets whatsoever.


motojet 10-08-2023 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3707942)
Thank you, how long can one expect to wait for the 787 FO in PHL in today's environment?

The junior FO on the latest bid was hired 3/2020. That's 3.5 years which includes the Covid pause in hiring but of course a lot can affect the timing, Age 67, the new 787 deliveries and where they go, the effect if any of the ending Northeast Alliance on JFK and PHL The new contract and if that has any influence on how pilots bid etc.

Brawndo 10-08-2023 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3707942)
Thank you, how long can one expect to wait for the 787 FO in PHL in today's environment?

It's still pretty dynamic but a guess off the top of my head is about 2.5 years (it briefly got more senior) but WB in general has slowly been coming down as you'd expect.

Where would you rather drive to work every day, DCA or Dulles? That's how I'd make the decision honestly without knowing or diving into what United IAD trips/seniority progression is like... Traffic around here is enough to weigh in on the decision.

**With the caveat that if you can drive to Philly somewhat easily you've got the WB option as well.

Danny70 10-08-2023 09:07 AM

DCA is next door from me, I'm in Alexandria, VA.
Thanks


Originally Posted by Brawndo (Post 3707968)
It's still pretty dynamic but a guess off the top of my head is about 2.5 years (it briefly got more senior) but WB in general has slowly been coming down as you'd expect.

Where would you rather drive to work every day, DCA or Dulles? That's how I'd make the decision honestly without knowing or diving into what United IAD trips/seniority progression is like... Traffic around here is enough to weigh in on the decision.

**With the caveat that if you can drive to Philly somewhat easily you've got the WB option as well.


uavking 10-08-2023 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3708002)
DCA is next door from me, I'm in Alexandria, VA.
Thanks

AA is a no brainer then, unless you really want to drive to IAD a bunch. Bid reserve and chill.

motojet 10-08-2023 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Danny70 (Post 3708002)
DCA is next door from me, I'm in Alexandria, VA.
Thanks

Oh man. If you live in Alexandria you will love flying out of DCA. I'm 20 minutes away and take the Metro to work when I can. It cannot be beat.


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