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FlyyGuyy 11-27-2023 09:21 AM
Originally Posted by FLYMIA (Post 3728294)
🤣 haha, ah man.. yea, can do without the cannons. On a side note, is there any way to see the progress of the ALPA card drive? I've talked with numerous captains about it who had no idea a drive was even taking place. Whoever started the drive is really not doing a good job of getting the word out.
Get a lanyard and wear it. Talk about it with your co workers. I am. Seems like most of my FOs are up to speed. Captains were hit or miss before I upgraded

Sliceback 11-27-2023 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by Wink (Post 3728088)
A bit? The place is unhinged.

Haven't people faced disciplinary actions because of the line?
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).

SoloPilot 11-27-2023 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3728501)
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
No, it’s not a first amendment issue. Guys have been fired because of posts on the line, it’s literally in the warning you click to enter the line.

https://casetext.com/case/held-v-allied-pilots-assn

AllYourBaseAreB 11-27-2023 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3728501)
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
the union hall argument for why the line had to be completely uncensored/unmoderated is complete nonsense.

Name User 11-27-2023 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3728501)
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
the government didn't fire him, a private company did

In no way was that a 1st amendment issue

R57 relay 11-28-2023 04:51 AM
Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3728501)
Yes. I'm forgetting if people were fired for what they posted. Definitely got unpaid time off. But it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue (uh...the government is involved in the discussion or the discipline...).
During the last section 6 a scheduling SME put some good stuff out countering some of the BS that was on The AArena. I asked if he could put it there. He said that he would not post on The AArena, it was a good place to get yourself fired.

Sliceback 11-28-2023 06:12 AM
My "but it's a union hall, it's a 1st Amendment issue, was dripping with sarcasm about the wailing wall participants who spout that dearth of logic.

Sliceback 11-28-2023 06:15 AM
Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 3728599)
During the last section 6 a scheduling SME put some good stuff out countering some of the BS that was on The AArena. I asked if he could put it there. He said that he would not post on The AArena, it was a good place to get yourself fired.
The SME's not going to get fired for doing basic stuff. The pilots that knew the people that got fired, or unpaid time off, weren't shocked at most of the rulings. But as a former negotiator said, even today, "there's not enough time in the day to contradict the B.S. that's out there. That included C&R/The Line.

Imredalso 12-14-2023 05:51 PM
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Try out Tiggers and Flows. A private forum for American Airlines Pilots.

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FutureMajor8 12-14-2023 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3728629)
The SME's not going to get fired for doing basic stuff. The pilots that knew the people that got fired, or unpaid time off, weren't shocked at most of the rulings. But as a former negotiator said, even today, "there's not enough time in the day to contradict the B.S. that's out there. That included C&R/The Line.
how bad were the postings? Are we talking racial/discrimination stuff ?


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