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12-13-2023, 11:31 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Montcalm
False.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64. The idea of "growth" conveniently neglects the recent retirement of three long-haul fleet types, significant losses in our international network, and the majority of our 777 fleet nearing 25 years of age.
The 787 and A321XLR are late and poorly handled replacement aircraft, not growth.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64. The idea of "growth" conveniently neglects the recent retirement of three long-haul fleet types, significant losses in our international network, and the majority of our 777 fleet nearing 25 years of age.
The 787 and A321XLR are late and poorly handled replacement aircraft, not growth.
12-13-2023, 12:08 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by GrossNavError
I'll never understand the AA booster club here. Rightfully calling out the fact that AA is last place in about every important metric except maybe retirement numbers and you get told to "go someplace else".
sad that The Line got taken off line?
since you "don't understand the booster club here" you can leave and never return.
12-13-2023, 12:14 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by AA717driver
This. I chose to retire 6 months early because I was done with AA.
I watched the slide which accelerated under Parker. Even Arpey knew they had a franchise with the FFB program. Now, First Class is just bigger seats.
I watched the slide which accelerated under Parker. Even Arpey knew they had a franchise with the FFB program. Now, First Class is just bigger seats.
Originally Posted by Montcalm
False.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64.
Last edited by RippinClapBombs; 12-13-2023 at 12:40 PM.
12-13-2023, 12:51 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
I thought they ordered 50 XLR’s with options for another 14. I thought I had recently read they accepted the 14 options for a total of 64 XLR’s. I can’t find anything to confirm or deny though. It would be nice if someone could provide a source.
170 mainline deliveries in that timeframe, including the 10 NXs from Alaska.
12-13-2023, 12:57 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by Easyflier301
How exactly do you call these orders “replacement aircraft” when the airline’s fleet is currently the largest it’s ever been, is still expanding, and no aircraft retirements are planned for the rest of the decade?
Originally Posted by hercretired
new APC member November 2023?
sad that The Line got taken off line?
since you "don't understand the booster club here" you can leave and never return.
sad that The Line got taken off line?
since you "don't understand the booster club here" you can leave and never return.
12-13-2023, 01:07 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by GrossNavError
Again, I gotta ask why you take it so personal when someone rightfully calls out how cheap and lousy AA is?
Not really comparable as to what time was better to be a pilot here
12-13-2023, 01:09 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by Montcalm
False.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64. The idea of "growth" conveniently neglects the recent retirement of three long-haul fleet types, significant losses in our international network, and the majority of our 777 fleet nearing 25 years of age.
The 787 and A321XLR are late and poorly handled replacement aircraft, not growth.
Management cheerleaders tout these numbers, but it's 50 XLR, not 64. The idea of "growth" conveniently neglects the recent retirement of three long-haul fleet types, significant losses in our international network, and the majority of our 777 fleet nearing 25 years of age.
The 787 and A321XLR are late and poorly handled replacement aircraft, not growth.
Regardless of pre or post Covid fleet accounting, it is growth.
12-13-2023, 01:17 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Easyflier301
You hurt what credibility you had when you implied that you preferred the AA of 2003 with furloughed pilots, pay cuts, regional outsourcing, contraction, and the lost decade (but hey, widebodies!) over the record revenues and planned growth of 2023.
Not really comparable as to what time was better to be a pilot here
Not really comparable as to what time was better to be a pilot here
2023 AA is spirit with London flights and a few seasonal flights here and there.
12-13-2023, 01:20 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by GrossNavError
2003 AA had far more interntaional flights than 2023 AA.
2023 AA is spirit with London flights and a few seasonal flights here and there.
2023 AA is spirit with London flights and a few seasonal flights here and there.
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