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Old 04-18-2024, 06:55 AM
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Hard to believe that the union pledging to remain neutral on the issue can spark a 4 page pie fight pro/con age extension. I guess you guys will just fight about anything.

Signed an old guy who isn't in favor of age extension.
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:27 AM
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Hard to believe that the union pledging to remain neutral on the issue can spark a 4 page pie fight pro/con age extension. I guess you guys will just fight about anything.

Signed an old guy who isn't in favor of age extension.
its just one rep proposing it. APA is currently against an age change
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:45 AM
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its just one rep proposing it. APA is currently against an age change
According to a rep on the town hall the other night, the feedback from the pilot group has been ‘four or five to one’ against any changes.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:46 AM
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No, and I cannot for the life of me figure out where this idea started. It’s also super easy to Google.

Straight from the proposed bill:



Just take out ‘65’ from the current law and replace it with ‘67’ - it’s that simple.
A version during drawing up did have it be 67 and 364 days.

But that isn't what came about when it finally got inserted into the House bill.

Hence why it keeps popping up. Just one or two steps behind.

It's less mystifying than the Pro-67 guys who are retired salvating because they misinterpret the retroactivity language and thinking they are going to come back at their seniority and position before retiring. When in reality it means you are simply eligible to fly under 121 again the moment it becomes effective. Unlike when it became 65, those who retired at 60 were told, " Too bad" and couldn't come back.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:59 AM
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It's less mystifying than the Pro-67 guys who are retired salvating because they misinterpret the retroactivity language and thinking they are going to come back at their seniority and position before retiring. When in reality it means you are simply eligible to fly under 121 again the moment it becomes effective. Unlike when it became 65, those who retired at 60 were told, " Too bad" and couldn't come back.
True. The language is crystal clear on that. IF this BS passes, anyone turning 65 before the effective date is treated as a new hire with zero credit for prior service.
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Old 04-19-2024, 05:51 PM
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According to a rep on the town hall the other night, the feedback from the pilot group has been ‘four or five to one’ against any changes.

4-5 are against it for every 1? Or 4-5 are for age 67 against every 1?
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4-5 are against it for every 1? Or 4-5 are for age 67 against every 1?
The first one.
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Old 04-20-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
No, and I cannot for the life of me figure out where this idea started. It’s also super easy to Google.

Straight from the proposed bill:



Just take out ‘65’ from the current law and replace it with ‘67’ - it’s that simple.
thank you for the reply. Unsure where the idea started, but 4 of my past 4 60+ YO CAs have repeated it as gospel. Hence my question.
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Old 04-21-2024, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
Hard to believe that the union pledging to remain neutral on the issue can spark a 4 page pie fight pro/con age extension. I guess you guys will just fight about anything.

Signed an old guy who isn't in favor of age extension.
Don’t worry, it was voted down 19-1, APA is still against age 67.
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
No, and I cannot for the life of me figure out where this idea started. It’s also super easy to Google.

Straight from the proposed bill:



Just take out ‘65’ from the current law and replace it with ‘67’ - it’s that simple.
I think it got started because originally there was an attempt at a stand alone bill that had 67 364 days, and it fell flat on its face.

It then became obvious to the lobbying group that the only way to achieve a realistic change was by modifying the FAA Reauthorization Bill by striking 65 and replacing it with 67.

I guess age 67 grass roots started before the FAA Reauthorization bill was up for renewal, so that vehicle wasn’t a viable option at first.
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