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MinimumEffort 07-10-2025 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3927264)
Sure, but there is no reason to think that they will change their tune when it comes to the international presence AA has.

They are getting better. They see they can't be spirit with WB anymore.

8802 07-10-2025 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3927264)
Sure, but there is no reason to think that they will change their tune when it comes to the international presence AA has.

If we're not increasing our international presence, where are we flying new 787's? If we're shrinking internationally, why aren't we parking 777's instead of extending their service life?

They're clearly changing their tune, but they're starting from a huge disadvantage due to prior mistakes.

FlyyGuyy 07-10-2025 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3927275)
If we're not increasing our international presence, where are we flying new 787's? If we're shrinking internationally, why aren't we parking 777's instead of extending their service life?

They're clearly changing their tune, but they're starting from a huge disadvantage due to prior mistakes.

I've noticed a few changes already. The free Wi-Fi program being one of them. I feel like catering has improved, slightly. The increase in business class seating. I feel like more is coming. Honestly wouldn't surprise me to hear we're adding ife or something at this point.

MinimumEffort 07-10-2025 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3927289)
I've noticed a few changes already. The free Wi-Fi program being one of them. I feel like catering has improved, slightly. The increase in business class seating. I feel like more is coming. Honestly wouldn't surprise me to hear we're adding ife or something at this point.

Rumor is new seat screens.

AAhole 07-10-2025 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by MinimumEffort (Post 3927331)
Rumor is new seat screens.

Arent they pulling the remaining screens from the 319s when they add the new row of first class? All these maxes and neos being delivered without IFE would cost a fortune to reconfigure. What a mess.

tallpilot 07-10-2025 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by AAhole (Post 3927366)
Arent they pulling the remaining screens from the 319s when they add the new row of first class? All these maxes and neos being delivered without IFE would cost a fortune to reconfigure. What a mess.

I don't see screens in steerage class on the NB. I see nice screens in Flagship Suites on all aircraft with that class.

Sliceback 07-11-2025 08:22 AM

Delta's 767 routes aren't going away. The great news for the DL pilots as the majority will be replaced by 787's or A330's. Some of the thinner one's might go to 321XLR's but that's doubtful. 757's will mostly be replaced by 321XLR's and probably not 787/330's.

Delta's route structure supports more w/b's today. It will in the future.

All the airlines are trying to identify new w/b markets. Welcome to 'nothing new under the sun.' If AA is successful in building up PHL, CLT, and a bit in JFK it can work on closing the gap to DL. UA's Pacific market supports a lot of large twins (Grp 4). That's hard to replicate in the near term.

N6279P 07-11-2025 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3927527)
Delta's 767 routes aren't going away. The great news for the DL pilots as the majority will be replaced by 787's or A330's. Some of the thinner one's might go to 321XLR's but that's doubtful. 757's will mostly be replaced by 321XLR's and probably not 787/330's.

Delta's route structure supports more w/b's today. It will in the future.

All the airlines are trying to identify new w/b markets. Welcome to 'nothing new under the sun.' If AA is successful in building up PHL, CLT, and a bit in JFK it can work on closing the gap to DL. UA's Pacific market supports a lot of large twins (Grp 4). That's hard to replicate in the near term.

Near term? It can’t be replicated, period. The demand to Asia doesn’t exist anywhere else like it does in San Francisco.

Name User 07-11-2025 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 3927536)
Near term? It can’t be replicated, period. The demand to Asia doesn’t exist anywhere else like it does in San Francisco.

It's not just the LAX/SFO demand, it's point of sale. Both UA and DL (via NWA) have a long history of serving that part of the world and asians will buy tickets on them, vs AA just serving US customers. Similar to how we have our LA and deep south flying. DL tried to buy their way in via LATAM and lost $2b doing so.

Varks 07-11-2025 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3927527)
Delta's 767 routes aren't going away. The great news for the DL pilots as the majority will be replaced by 787's or A330's. Some of the thinner one's might go to 321XLR's but that's doubtful. 757's will mostly be replaced by 321XLR's and probably not 787/330's.

Delta's route structure supports more w/b's today. It will in the future.

All the airlines are trying to identify new w/b markets. Welcome to 'nothing new under the sun.' If AA is successful in building up PHL, CLT, and a bit in JFK it can work on closing the gap to DL. UA's Pacific market supports a lot of large twins (Grp 4). That's hard to replicate in the near term.

I don’t think Delta is getting 787. Pretty sure they are not getting the XLR either. United. Yes and yes. I wouldn’t be surprised if United got the XLR before us.


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