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Al Czervik 03-26-2025 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by MinimumEffort (Post 3897374)
Nevermind, The announcement on jetnet makes it clearer what they are going to do.
Hope you like South America.

As in we're only getting 8 or something else?

Name User 03-26-2025 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3897453)
As in we're only getting 8 or something else?

They are disappointed at the destinations added.

tallpilot 03-26-2025 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3897398)
I could use a new family

Post of the day

Brillo 03-26-2025 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by MinimumEffort (Post 3897290)
That has changed.
It's 11 this year, 2 next month, 2 in may and then 1 every month for the rest of the year.
2026 we will only get 1 now.

Not doubting you, but do you have a source for my own information?

CincoDeMayo 03-27-2025 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Brillo (Post 3897511)
Not doubting you, but do you have a source for my own information?

Curious too, last quarterly report even showed 8 this year and 4 next year.

ImSoSuss 03-27-2025 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by MinimumEffort (Post 3897374)
Nevermind, The announcement on jetnet makes it clearer what they are going to do.
Hope you like South America.

I mean hey, if it makes us the most money. LA and SA is the one single area in the world we dominate right now. I don't want to give that up just to be 3rd place everywhere.

WiFly 03-27-2025 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3897778)
I mean hey, if it makes us the most money. LA and SA is the one single area in the world we dominate right now. I don't want to give that up just to be 3rd place everywhere.

Yup, we can't afford to lose any more markets. It's ridiculous how much we've given up in LAX, NYC, ORD. Management should be spending 24/7 figuring out how to get that market share back. And maybe more importantly, figuring out why we lost it in the first place.

MinimumEffort 03-27-2025 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Brillo (Post 3897511)
Not doubting you, but do you have a source for my own information?


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3897586)
Curious too, last quarterly report even showed 8 this year and 4 next year.

That news has been floating around the training center.

The 4 we are getting in the next two months were supposed to have come last year but have been sitting in Charleston waiting on the first class doors to be certified by the faa. So in a way the plan for 8 in 2025 was/is correct but the 4 from last year still haven't come.

Now the bad news, Supposedly we also lose the use of the crew rest bunk jump seat for jump seaters. So we go down to only being able to have 2 jump seaters domestically vs. the 3 currently allowed when you're un-augmented, 1 j/s when there are three pilots and 0 when there are 4 pilots. So all the people who like to risk the J/s to Japan watch out, it might get you left behind.


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3897778)
I mean hey, if it makes us the most money. LA and SA is the one single area in the world we dominate right now. I don't want to give that up just to be 3rd place everywhere.

I get it but it just feels like this company can only add a certain amount of new cities and then just add more frequency. If I read that announcement right at our peak we're doing 7 flights a day to Buenos Aires and 6 to Sao Paulo? Are those really the most profitable cities?

Why not maintain year round service to Australia or god forbid launch some new Asian destinations.

WiFly 03-27-2025 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by MinimumEffort (Post 3897803)
That news has been floating around the training center.

The 4 we are getting in the next two months were supposed to have come last year but have been sitting in Charleston waiting on the first class doors to be certified by the faa. So in a way the plan for 8 in 2025 was/is correct but the 4 from last year still haven't come.

Now the bad news, Supposedly we also lose the use of the crew rest bunk jump seat for jump seaters. So we go down to only being able to have 2 jump seaters domestically vs. the 3 currently allowed when you're un-augmented, 1 j/s when there are three pilots and 0 when there are 4 pilots. So all the people who like to risk the J/s to Japan watch out, it might get you left behind.

The new 787 deliveries won't have the Overhead Flight Crew Rest (OFCR) occupiable for takeoff and landing??

MinimumEffort 03-27-2025 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by WiFly (Post 3897810)
The new 787 deliveries won't have the Overhead Flight Crew Rest (OFCR) occupiable for takeoff and landing??

Nope. Apparently the FAA said because the doors in the business class suite can close it would be a hazard for the drop-down escape hatch and would cause an obstacle to escape.


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