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Old 09-29-2025 | 01:25 PM
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American Airlines loses bid to block O'Hare gate redistribution

A federal judge has sided with United and the City of Chicago in their dispute with American over gate allocations at Chicago O'Hare.

American sued the Chicago Department of Aviation in an Illinois circuit court this summer, asking for an injunction to block the city's plan to allocate five more gates to United and take away four of American's gates, effective in October. The case was originally brought by American in May, but in federal court.

Under O'Hare's formula, gate access is redistributed based on how much each carrier utilized their gates during the previous calendar year. The changes would take effect in October.

United and American both hub at O'Hare, but United, which is headquartered in Chicago, is bigger there and built back from the pandemic much quicker at O'Hare than Dallas-based American, increasing its annual seat count lead at the airport between 2019 and 2024 from 9.3 million to 13 million.

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Airline with HQ in ORD wins lawsuit, no surprise there.

UA's gates are far better positioned, our ORD gate setup is like it is in CLT, PHL, DCA, DFW...in short terrible.


American Airlines Taps Ex-Senior Delta Air Leader To Redesign The ‘Entire Inflight Experience’


American Airlines has managed to convert an ex-senior executive at Delta Air Lines into its fold, hiring Rhonda Crawford as its new senior vice president of customer experience design. In this role, she will oversee the entire passenger journey, including premium lounges and the entire in-flight experience.

Crawford previously worked for Delta in a variety of senior positions, starting off at the Atlanta-based carrier as its vice president of eCommerce in 2014 and 2015. By the time she left Delta last September, she had become the airline’s senior vice president of Digital.

In fact, much of Crawford’s work experience is in digital communications and strategy, but at American Airlines, she’ll be taking on a role that has a much more direct impact on the passenger experience.

In a LinkedIn post announcing Crawford’s appointment, American Airlines said: “We’re thrilled to announce Rhonda Crawford as our new Senior Vice President of Customer Experience Design. In this role she’ll lead the overall customer journey design – from our lounges and premium guest services to the entire inflight experience.”

Crawford will be working within AA’s newly created Customer Experience organization, which is headed by Heather Garboden.

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Old 09-29-2025 | 02:27 PM
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Only the injunction was denied, the threshold for which is very high. Usually things like “irreparable harm” or other extraordinary circumstances.

Even if the gates are allowed to go to UA, which it appears as though they will, it does not under any circumstances mean AA can’t prevail in the case. Further the harm a few gates makes while measurable, is not irreparable.
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Old 09-29-2025 | 04:27 PM
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Only the injunction was denied, the threshold for which is very high. Usually things like “irreparable harm” or other extraordinary circumstances.

Even if the gates are allowed to go to UA, which it appears as though they will, it does not under any circumstances mean AA can’t prevail in the case. Further the harm a few gates makes while measurable, is not irreparable.
Awesome well that is somewhat good news.

We have 59 they have 95 gates IIRC. Not sure if that is before or after the switch, I think it's after.
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Awesome well that is somewhat good news.

We have 59 they have 95 gates IIRC. Not sure if that is before or after the switch, I think it's after.
According to the ORD chiefs we should get them back next Oct if the same calculations are used. I’d imagine Spirit gets whittled down to 1-2 gates as well.

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Old 09-29-2025 | 06:48 PM
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According to the ORD chiefs we should get them back next Oct if the same calculations are used. I’d imagine Spirit gets whittled down to 1-2 gates as well.
they will probably change the calculations just to screw us
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UA's gates are far better positioned, our ORD gate setup is like it is in CLT, PHL, DCA, DFW...in short terrible.
Hopefully AA didn't chip in much more than the cost of some new paint and seats. The best 'fix' for an alley is to demolish it and turn it into an island-style concourse.
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Old 09-30-2025 | 10:35 AM
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Airline with HQ in ORD wins lawsuit, no surprise there.
AA lost because they didn't fly to their full capacity while United did. The formula is not just how many gates you have but how often you utilize them. United gained gates because it just flew far more flights per gate. This is all publicly available data.
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Old 09-30-2025 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cornerpocket
Hopefully AA didn't chip in much more than the cost of some new paint and seats. The best 'fix' for an alley is to demolish it and turn it into an island-style concourse.
I don't miss the low pay but I miss the small airports like Casper, WY with drive in, drive out gates. They even had jetbridges! You are absolutely right about obsolete designs slowing everything down at way too many mega-hubs.
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Old 09-30-2025 | 11:57 AM
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AA lost because they didn't fly to their full capacity while United did. The formula is not just how many gates you have but how often you utilize them. United gained gates because it just flew far more flights per gate. This is all publicly available data.
One of the many reasons why ORD is such a miserable experience. Airlines are forced to stack flights tightly to “demonstrate” a need for additional gates. So we end up having to wait for gates in the pad time after time, while airlines “demonstrate need” for gates
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the problem with ORD is when a 787 pushes back it gums up the alley while everyone waits.
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