FAA stepping in to ORD fight
04-18-2026 | 03:42 AM
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I’m saying that some “leaked” slide of AA de-hubing ORD did not make Isom grow ORD by hundreds of flights. I’m also saying that it wasn’t “petty” that UA responded to AA by also adding flights.
I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.
Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.
All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious
I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.
Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.
All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious
04-18-2026 | 04:20 AM
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I’m saying that some “leaked” slide of AA de-hubing ORD did not make Isom grow ORD by hundreds of flights. I’m also saying that it wasn’t “petty” that UA responded to AA by also adding flights.
I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.
Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.
All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious
I didn’t look into the details of the flight cuts so I won’t comment on that. Whatever comes of it, management will manage and I’ll fly the metal.
Some of you guys get wrapped all around the axel about Kirby. Anyone that goes against whatever narrative is popular at AA for the day is a “Kirbylite”. It’s just strange.
All this is business, not personal. As pilots, we’re all on the same side. Yet, some of yall make bashing UA, Kirby and UA pilots a personality trait. Relax, gents. It’s not that serious
Anyone who takes anything personally on this site definitely needs to touch grass. However, the idiom don’t dish it out if you can’t take it comes to mind.
Kirby has played a loud and boastful tune that some take to heart, including bashing other airlines openly.
I’m also glad AA management is not boasting about this win, because I know UAL management would be cringe and bashful had the outcome turned out differently.
04-18-2026 | 05:53 AM
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Who is taking this personal? Kirby started this by trying to dehub American by stealing their gates with his backroom deal with the city of Chicago. 100% on your golden boy here. He wanted to dehub AA and it was United is the Who added flIghts first, forcing AA to respond in kind. You're just looking one step back when this started several steps.ago. invite you to do some research.
I also get what you’re saying about UA adding flights first. However, the UnitedNext plan was to grow in all of the hubs. ORD is unique that 2 carriers call it a hub and how the airport allocates the gates (this pre-dates the turf war). UA was always going to grow ORD which would’ve forced AA to respond. Again, it wasn’t out of pettiness, it was planned from the inception of UnitedNext. Should a company not grow and expand because another company would hate it?
04-18-2026 | 06:13 AM
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The above quote is just one instance of a UA pilot bashing AA in this very thread for no reason.
Anyone who takes anything personally on this site definitely needs to touch grass. However, the idiom don’t dish it out if you can’t take it comes to mind.
Kirby has played a loud and boastful tune that some take to heart, including bashing other airlines openly.
I’m also glad AA management is not boasting about this win, because I know UAL management would be cringe and bashful had the outcome turned out differently.
Anyone who takes anything personally on this site definitely needs to touch grass. However, the idiom don’t dish it out if you can’t take it comes to mind.
Kirby has played a loud and boastful tune that some take to heart, including bashing other airlines openly.
I’m also glad AA management is not boasting about this win, because I know UAL management would be cringe and bashful had the outcome turned out differently.
04-18-2026 | 06:35 AM
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Now it looks like AA will be getting some gates back next year. Funny how things work out sometimes.
04-18-2026 | 09:08 AM
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The ironic thing is it almost definitely led to a worse outcome for United in Chicago. I'm not even sure the gate allocation strategy was even on AA's radar until UA management started bragging about all the gates it was getting, all the flights it was adding and that AA would eventually be force to de hub ORD. If AA wasn't paying attention before, it definitely was after.
Now it looks like AA will be getting some gates back next year. Funny how things work out sometimes.
Now it looks like AA will be getting some gates back next year. Funny how things work out sometimes.
04-18-2026 | 09:10 AM
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04-18-2026 | 02:18 PM
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04-20-2026 | 05:47 PM
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Who is taking this personal? Kirby started this by trying to dehub American by stealing their gates with his backroom deal with the city of Chicago. 100% on your golden boy here. He wanted to dehub AA and it was United is the Who added flIghts first, forcing AA to respond in kind. You're just looking one step back when this started several steps.ago. invite you to do some research.
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