As someone who has never received any money from the union, I’m telling you I’m tired of hearing people like you complaining but showing zero willingness to help figure out a solution.

So we have to pay dues and volunteer before we are allowed to complain? Guess I should start working for my insurance company before I lob the next complaint.

What was the big announcement?

Did they ever make it?

There are 100 year pins in the crew rooms

You’re allowed to complain. But it’s unproductive and a waste of time if you never do anything about it. Why don’t you step up and try being a part of the solution? Instead of getting on a public forum and complaining.

So what do you suggest should be done to improve things?

Again, what is up with the gaslighting silencing tactic? I'll ****en complain about something if I want to and no I do not need to run for office in order to do it. I pay them a lot of money to do things right.

You want me to go in and line delete and add items of the contract myself? Will they allow me to do that? What solutions would you have me doing to fix this mess? I have already supported ALPA merger since day one, I have already sent sound-offs, and I have voted in elections for officers that more align with my interests.

APA has been a failure for decades, honestly I don’t think anything can be done.

So about that WB order announcement lol, I think we will be lucky to hear that we're not retiring airplanes to stem rising fuel costs.

I think that is a bit of an exaggeration. I think APA certainly has room for improvement but just saying 'they suck' is difficult to take seriously. I have used their resources/spoken with APA staff a few times and I have good experiences. I think the app is very good and the organization has gotten better at being proactive. They are much improved from where things were a few years ago and most importantly, they are for the most part all rowing in the same direction (except for the people actively trying to undermine APA because they think ALPA will fix all their problems).