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unitedflyier 02-01-2012 04:24 PM

job cuts
 
It seems ironic that just a few months ago the company was complaining about the shortage of pilots because of the high retirements. The selfish pilots that wanted to hold on to their pensions instead of donating years of hard work to management.

400 should be very easy to achieve just offer the same deal as before the bankruptcy and bingo hundreds will volunteer to go.

Aldous Snow 02-01-2012 05:28 PM

Very sorry to hear this. Good luck to those affected, hopefully it's very short term.

TheFly 02-01-2012 08:33 PM

What a shame.....good luck to the AA pilots & employees in general.

jonnyjetprop 02-01-2012 08:56 PM

Talk about a sucker punch to the gut. The guys losing their jobs are the same ones that left a job to take the call back at AA.

Iowa Farm Boy 02-02-2012 03:32 AM

American Airlines seems to "hire until they furlough, furlough until they hire."

Sonny Crockett 02-02-2012 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop (Post 1127637)
Talk about a sucker punch to the gut. The guys losing their jobs are the same ones that left a job to take the call back at AA.

UAL did the same thing....recall in 2006, hire in 2007-2008....furlough in 2009.

squawkoff 02-02-2012 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1127315)
I'm sure there is room for negotiation, I don't know anything but what the article says. It doesn't say anything about Eagle, so I would imagine it's just American.

News reports said that Eagle was getting their own "briefing" just like the American one. I'm sure that information will come out as well.

Eagle had their briefing. Here's a quote:

"Most of what was discussed at this meeting is confidential under our confidentiality agreement with the Company which limits our ability to discuss the contents of the meeting."

JamesNoBrakes 02-02-2012 04:50 AM

Someone on Yahoo claimed that this was part of a strategy to increase/replace the fleet. The only way to do that was to get rid of some of their costs. Thoughts?

RedeyeAV8r 02-02-2012 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1127716)
Someone on Yahoo claimed that this was part of a strategy to increase/replace the fleet. The only way to do that was to get rid of some of their costs. Thoughts?

It is also Managements Shot across the Bow. "We are now in Bankruptcy and the negotiation rules have Changed"

AMR MGT will be coming to APA shortly for massive concessions. The Targeted 400 pilots will be a bargaining chip. This is right out of the MGT negotiating Manual.

Ask the East USair, fNWA and UAL pilots what their Managements did during their BK reorganization.

What 02-02-2012 06:51 AM

Fixed it for ya!


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 1127765)
It is also Managements Shot across the Bow. "We are now in Bankruptcy and the negotiation rules have Changed"

AMR MGT came to APA for massive concessions. The Targeted 400 pilots will be a bargaining chip. This is right out of the MGT negotiating Manual.

Ask the East USair, fNWA and UAL pilots what their Managements did during their BK reorganization.

*check this site out and see the proposal to APA, AMR made this information public as it was being presented to the unions yesterday, while the AE unions were told, "you can't talk about it".


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