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aafurloughee 04-20-2012 05:55 AM

Us/aa sli
 
Looks like it,s gonna happen. So on that note, any care to chime in on how they believe the SLI is gonna look like? By my avatar, you can tell that I,m not holding my breath. Corporate flying it is till death do us part.

Wingtips 04-20-2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by aafurloughee (Post 1172534)
Looks like it,s gonna happen. So on that note, any care to chime in on how they believe the SLI is gonna look like? By my avatar, you can tell that I,m not holding my breath. Corporate flying it is till death do us part.

Sounds like from I have read they wont touch anything for at least 5 years.

LittleBoyBlew 04-20-2012 07:22 AM

DOH with fences. When the 7 year fence drops, any seniority issues will be moot.;)

B757200ER 04-20-2012 07:22 AM

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Noone really knows...and to speculate is completely useless.

VenetianFryCook 04-20-2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by B757200ER (Post 1172617)
Noone really knows...and to speculate is completely useless.

THIS. There are about 800 steps in a merger like this. The SLI is step 676. We are on step 8. Better that we not make wild statements that could divide AA and US pilots when unity is in our best interest.

shiznit 04-20-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by VenetianFryCook (Post 1172780)
THIS. There are about 800 steps in a merger like this. The SLI is step 676. We are on step 8. Better that we not make wild statements that could divide AA and US pilots when unity is in our best interest.

The US group has NO IDEA when it comes to that concept......and AA hasn't been too good at it either over the years......

Just be thankful that if it goes through that the USAPA nightmare will finally be over for ALL the pilots of the LCC.

RJtrashPilot 04-20-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by VenetianFryCook (Post 1172780)
THIS. There are about 800 steps in a merger like this. The SLI is step 676. We are on step 8. Better that we not make wild statements that could divide AA and US pilots when unity is in our best interest.


Yes. AA pilots don't want any division, especially now. Since the shoe is on the other foot and they are in bankruptcy, they surely wouldn't want the same screw job that they gave the TWA pilots a decade ago. What was one of the reasons they cited? Oh yes, that the TDub guys should accept the staple job because their company is in bankruptcy and they should feel lucky just to have a job. I guess they learned from their own mistake.

aa73 04-20-2012 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1172783)
Yes. AA pilots don't want any division, especially now. Since the shoe is on the other foot and they are in bankruptcy, they surely wouldn't want the same screw job that they gave the TWA pilots a decade ago. What was one of the reasons they cited? Oh yes, that the TDub guys should accept the staple job because their company is in bankruptcy and they should feel lucky just to have a job. I guess they learned from their own mistake.

No comparison between AA/TWA and AA/US whatsoever. Two totally different scenarios, dynamics, sizes, career expectations, etc. In fact, the ONLY similarity is that AA is in Ch 11, but in a vastly different financial picture than TWA was at the time of acquisition. USAir won't be "picking up the assets of AMR" like AMR did with TWA. This deal will be a full blown merger, much like DL/NW and UA/CO.

Not saying the staple job was fair: it wasn't. And also not saying I won't get screwed: I fully expect to lose a ton of seniority out of this if it goes through. More than anything, I hope we DID learn a ton from our past mistakes.

And there is not a day that goes by where I don't say a prayer of thanks for my job!

Regards,
73

Daniel Larusso 04-20-2012 11:08 AM

Aa73,

Completely understand what you're saying, but most of the differences pilots talk about in such things belong/matter in a good bar not in front of an arbitrator. Not confornting, but generally true.

texaspilot76 04-20-2012 11:22 AM

Can someone explain the "fence"? Does that mean that no US pilot could bid for a DFW opening until the fence is over? Does the fence prohibit the company from opening a base in DFW for US flown aircraft (i.e. airbus)? In addition, when the company is merged and the fence is in place, where do new hires go? Can they bid any base?


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