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Wingtips 06-06-2012 09:21 PM

i hope that AA is not all talk come the end of this month, I have a bad feeling that this is all talk, and they will get the crap contract and still all show up.

GAPILOT36 06-08-2012 07:24 AM

Any update on the progress of this weeks APA/AMR meetings? No one yet has given any idea of how that's going.

eaglefly 06-08-2012 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1207886)
Any update on the progress of this weeks APA/AMR meetings? No one yet has given any idea of how that's going.

Comm blackout to let the process complete itself. Generally, the less contentious issues are usually addressed first and the final dogfighting is over the BIG ones.

Flyby1206 06-08-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1207886)
Any update on the progress of this weeks APA/AMR meetings? No one yet has given any idea of how that's going.

Progress? Maybe. Talks to continue into next week

Pilots report progress in mediated talks with American Airlines management | Airline Biz Blog

eaglefly 06-13-2012 07:16 PM

Talks with TWU represented mechanics collapse, thus that leaves 2 of 3 critical labor groups (mechanics, F/A's) that will likely be subject to contract abrogation June 22. Pessimism meter is pegged in the red. :cool:

eaglefly 06-16-2012 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1211558)
Talks with TWU represented mechanics collapse, thus that leaves 2 of 3 critical labor groups (mechanics, F/A's) that will likely be subject to contract abrogation June 22. Pessimism meter is pegged in the red. :cool:

The pessimism continues. AMR and the APA have apparently failed to produce a TA. AMR has given the APA their "best and final offer" and that has been taken to the BOD for evaluation on whether it is worthy of presenting to the membership for their consideration and vote.

May have more info by Tuesday or Wednesday of next week, but tidbits usually trickle out early on these things. This doesn't sound like the recipe for success though.

Wingtips 06-16-2012 05:20 AM

AMR Pilot Union Board Considers Whether to Send Offer for Vote - Bloomberg

Flyby1206 06-16-2012 08:52 AM

If the APA BOD decides to put the 'last and best offer' out for a vote, then does that delay the June 22 date for the judge to rule on the 1113 process?

olympic 06-16-2012 10:41 AM

Fail .....

Ball Breaker 06-17-2012 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 1213329)
If the APA BOD decides to put the 'last and best offer' out for a vote, then does that delay the June 22 date for the judge to rule on the 1113 process?

In my opinion, it would be a huge mistake to put the "last and best offer" out for a vote. If it is ratified, you live with it for a long, long time. If you don't and the judge abrogates your existing contract, it's the "last and best offer" which would be implemented anyways. Then you still have some leverage to improve it when you exit bankruptcy.


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