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eaglefly 06-21-2012 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1216412)
Eaglefly, that's a low blow. I do not get from any of Tom's postings that he would cross a picket line. Such accusations diminishes your credablity. Just because you disagree, doesn't give license to impune someone's honor.

COMPLETELY disagree.........and I mean COMPLETELY. You need to go back and review his postings, positions, attacks and criticisms back to November (they have been VERY consistent). IF (and that's a big if) he's an AA pilot, based on all that, I have NO DOUBT, he'd never honor an APA picket line under any circumstances. That's MY opinion and if you disagree, tough. In fact, his timing, positions and comments almost certainly make him a management shill, specifically here for the purpose of pro-managment propaganda.

Honor ?

GMAFB !

In case you haven't figured it out (and apparently you haven't), he's a "die hard AA'er and proud of it". He IS NOT one of "us" and he is not part of the 7500+ AA pilots standing shoulder to shoulder in defense of their very career survival.

eaglefly 06-21-2012 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Tomahawk58 (Post 1216426)
Given that I've been here for 23plus years, I'm betting I've walked more picket lines than you probably have.

But hey, if attacks give you a greater sense of warmth and comfort, so be it!

Baloney. But hey, at least you've now got a fan !

Tomahawk58 06-21-2012 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1216427)
COMPLETELY disagree.........and I mean COMPLETELY. You need to go back and review his postings, positions, attacks and criticisms back to November (they have been VERY consistent). IF (and that's a big if) he's an AA pilot, based on all that, I have NO DOUBT, he'd never honor an APA picket line under any circumstances. That's MY opinion and if you disagree, tough. In fact, his timing, positions and comments almost certainly make him a management shill, specifically here for the purpose of pro-managment propaganda.

Honor ?

GMAFB !

In case you haven't figured it out (and apparently you haven't), he's a "die hard AA'er and proud of it". He IS NOT one of "us" and he is not part of the 7500+ AA pilots standing shoulder to shoulder in defense of their very career survival.

Having been here through Jim Sovich's tenure at the head of APA through the current, I don't have to defend my respect for the profession or those who've serve the membership. I could care less about your attempted character assignation! We have had great leaders on both sides of the aisle. I'm not here to engage in petty arguments. I'm comfortable with my track record and yes, I do believe Tom Horton, John Hale, and some good leaders on the APA BOD will find the way to move forward!

If you want to waddle in the mud, you'll have to pick another opponent.

Best :)

7576FO 06-21-2012 05:02 PM

Tom Horton and John (do nothing) Hale are the main problems with AA.

Tramahawk still claiming to be a pilot for AA. Said he flies MD80's and did not know what we ALL call check airmen at AA. Check Airmen at AA are called Supervisors.

Once a liar always a liar!

Tramahawk is management or works for AirCon.

I will do everything in my power to make sure AMR manangement is removed from power.

95% of all AA pilots signed a No-Confidence letter in AA management!

I'm guessing Tramahwk did not.
7576FO

eaglefly 06-21-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tomahawk58 (Post 1216447)
Having been here through Jim Sovich's tenure at the head of APA through the current, I don't have to defend my respect for the profession or those who've serve the membership. I could care less about your attempted character assignation! We have had great leaders on both sides of the aisle. I'm not here to engage in petty arguments. I'm comfortable with my track record and yes, I do believe Tom Horton, John Hale, and some good leaders on the APA BOD will find the way to move forward!

If you want to waddle in the mud, you'll have to pick another opponent.

Best :)

Quite the hypocrite there, Tom. You belittle me for "character assignation (assassination)", yet forget the post where you claim I said things I didn't along with consistant belittlement of of my (and others) pro-AA pilot positions. I'll assume the "some" good leaders of course are those who vote "yes" to anything. of course (especially the DFW "rubber-stampers").

Same 'ole, same 'ole, eh Tom ?

Rest up, because you might need your A-game in a week or so trying to convince AA pilots here a dog turd is indeed a twinky. The 3-stripers are the ones that will have to be convinced, for the most part.

Good luck ! :rolleyes:

Sliceback 06-27-2012 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by Tomahawk58 (Post 1216426)
Given that I've been here for 23plus years, I'm betting I've walked more picket lines than you probably have.

But hey, if attacks give you a greater sense of warmth and comfort, so be it!


Not a personal attack, or a dig, but an observation after doing some research - did your last promotion move you east of 360?

I'm asking because I rarely recall seeing you, or your predecessor, eating lunch west of 360 and I've spent more than my fair share of time down there.

Tony Nelson 06-28-2012 08:53 AM

Did APA reach a TA??

Pilot X 06-28-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Tony Nelson (Post 1220478)
Did APA reach a TA??


Jes.......9-7

Sliceback 06-28-2012 04:03 PM

Vote of 9-7 to send it to the membership.

Judge wants the result of voting by August 8(?).

slammer1906 07-02-2012 05:44 AM

Have the highlights been posted?


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