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Airway 06-20-2012 06:03 AM

AA Recalls, Hiring and Retirements
 
So AMR is claiming a shortage of pilots "due to sick calls and retirements" resulting in the reduction of flight schedules. What is the prospect of hiring? Are furloughees actively returning or even being called back?

Not much AMR news among all the DL and UA stuff.

aa73 06-20-2012 06:08 AM

Everything is on hold now pending the judge's decision on Friday along with the company's "best and final" offer being considered by the APA BOD.

Yes the company is extremely short on pilots on most fleets and 100+ retirements on 7/1 won't help matters. If anything it will reduce or maybe even nullify any possible furloughs planned for the inevitable increase in hours we'll be working under the new contract.

What 06-20-2012 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Airway (Post 1215448)
So AMR is claiming a shortage of pilots "due to sick calls and retirements" resulting in the reduction of flight schedules. What is the prospect of hiring? Are furloughees actively returning or even being called back?

Not much AMR news among all the DL and UA stuff.

Before AA hires, there are still 250 pilots at Eagle who have seniority numbers, we don't know what the flow rate will be for these pilots but like the post above said much depends on the AA 1113 process and the Eagle contract. After that there is also the remanding AA pilots on the list and whoever has bypassed because of uncertainty at AA might also accept a recall.

GAPILOT36 06-20-2012 09:11 AM

Good chance those "seniority numbers" won't hold with the US/APA Term sheet. It mentions that in there. Don't hold your breath...

What 06-20-2012 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1215558)
Good chance those "seniority numbers" won't hold with the US/APA Term sheet. It mentions that in there. Don't hold your breath...

No one is holding their breath, I am not talking about the 824 ruling or the new so called flow agreement, I am talking about Pilots who have had numbers at AA for over a decade and are ahead of some of the guys on furlough! Even if US Airways is to acquire AMR, AA will need to recall pilots with the retirements they are seeing, around 60 bailed out in June, word is that more are looking to go out the door July 1st not to mention what will others decide to do with whatever happens latter this week. AMR as in AA & Eagle are short of airframes and Pilot currently. We will know more of the "master" plan over the next few days.

block30 06-20-2012 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1215449)
Everything is on hold now pending the judge's decision on Friday along with the company's "best and final" offer being considered by the APA BOD.

Yes the company is extremely short on pilots on most fleets and 100+ retirements on 7/1 won't help matters. If anything it will reduce or maybe even nullify any possible furloughs planned for the inevitable increase in hours we'll be working under the new contract.

Where did you get that info from, or is that just a hunch? Thanks.

aa73 06-20-2012 11:39 AM

It's a reasonable guess based on the # of lock-ins for 7/1, along with the fact that the B fund look-back will go away with the judge's ruling (if he rules this Friday.) We do have a pilot who runs an investment business on the side who has accurately predicted every retirement month so far, according to him we should be between 100 and 200 possible retirements on 7/1.

Sliceback 06-20-2012 11:55 AM

He said "closer to 100" recently.

Stock market recovering from it's recent lows might be the change?

jacjetlag 06-20-2012 12:08 PM

APA board about to vote whether to send "last/best" offer to membership, within the hour....

aa73 06-20-2012 03:40 PM

APA BOD rejected the final offer by 11-5. Apparently it was a turd (shocker.) So it will not be presented to the membership, and Judge Lane will rule this Friday.

Game On!


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