What a or AA Company Tool....:mad:

How much in PUP Buck Bonus cash has this fool cashed in on...

Vote "Yes" if you want to work on your knee's in front of this clown the next 10+ years....Vote "Yes" if for the next 10+ years you want to make 1000's less then Delta or UAL....While you can only wish you voted NO:(

Hang tough APA, every pilot regardless of their employer is hoping you hang tough. Concessions only benefit management .

Vote no for yourselves and your families but vote no for future American pilots too please!!!!! Good luck

Abrogation is the nuclear option and any management stooge or investor has to realize the damage that would ensue.....especially the investor. Imagine the ramifications of sticking this enormous turd down labor's throat. Sick calls through the roof. Unpredictable mass retirements. Slow taxis, late take-offs and horrendous customer service. I'm not there but I fully support and respect all the "no" voters. Hold the line!

By voting NO, one extremely important thing happens... there's no contract with labor. For post BK cash dealings and all of those management maneuverings "we poor pilots simply cannot understand because we aren't management, just glorified bus drivers," become exceedingly difficult.

For AMR to "move forward", labor needs to toe the line, heel like good dogs. Without contracts, AMR is radioactive. The secret is, they are desperate for a contract, and obviously one which will help their bonus bottom line.

From what little I learned today, the United TA sounds decent, if not better than decent. The airlines are making money. Management wants to lock in a 10 year contract with pilots and other union groups to make their profits and bonuses that much more spectacular. Do not be fooled... they view us as a commodity, but they fail to realize that, unlike 50 tons of pork bellies, they cannot simply buy more pork bellies overnight to replace those on the property.

I genuinely believe WE, the unions, are currently in a position of greater power. Let's exercise that power. Vote NO, take the pain and angst which will last a fraction of 6 years, and make AA great once again. And by extension, each individual victory for pilots throughout the US airline biz will elevate the others.

Not to mention AMR will most likely need financing for BK exit, plane orders, merger plans, etc and it wont be easy getting financing without labor agreements.

The above has been AA's norm for years, especially the last part.

Hang tough, AA'ers.

Where's Traumahawk these days? :rolleyes:

UAL pilots were in your shoes about 10 years ago. They chose to "participate" in the restructuring (i.e. concessionary contract). With their "yes" vote, they chose to cancel their pensions. The end result might be the same, but their pensions weren't taken from them by a BK judge's ruling. They voted them away.

Looking back on it, they ended up stuck with that contract for the next 10 (and counting for now) years. I don't think they spent those 10 years any better off as a result of their "participation".

Stay strong and make these jerks take anything they get from you by prying it out of your clenched fist.

Pilots want to be in control, I get it. However, this isn't the time to fool yourselves into believing that your participation in your own screw job will somehow make it less painful. It's going to suck - no doubt. In my opinion, getting things back that were wrongfully taken from you might be easier than trying to re-acquire things you gave away.

Good luck to you all from a former legacy BK participant and current AAdvantage Exec Platinum.

I was thinking the same thing?