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buddies8 07-05-2013 07:30 AM

problem is the deferrals returning and do there 12 month requirement for pay . trickle hiring at first but nothing major until august 2014 is my guess. AA says alot but does very little.

Mink 07-05-2013 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Lil Pill (Post 1439230)

It's an unbelievably stupid policy decision by the APA which is screwing a whole bunch of folks out of some serious cash. The worst part is that there has been no explanation as to why. Just silence!

Hate to say this, but APA does not impress much so far. Their communication is atrocious!

100% agree. I guess that's what makes this such a bitter pill. It's not the evil AA that's sticking it to the pilots with this equity payout, it's "our" union's mismanagement. My guess is it will end up in a bureaucratic/legal luffberry for a long time, and the end result will be much less money (cash and/or stock) than everyone is now thinking, and will cause even more angst (if that's possible) amongst the pilots, especially senior vs junior.

Regarding the thread topic, I think AA has its hands so full sorting out recalls and the impending merger that apps and eventual off-the-street hires are waaaay down on their to do list. Go ahead and apply when the time comes, but just be aware of the disorganized and disgruntled group you're joining, because it's likely to be that way for a long time.

And remember, big pilot shortage is just around the corner...:rolleyes:

QuagmireGiggity 07-05-2013 09:55 AM

Just heard the Aug. 21 class has been cancelled. Probably street hires in Oct.

CanoePilot 07-05-2013 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity (Post 1439732)
Just heard the Aug. 21 class has been cancelled. Probably street hires in Oct.

what reason?

QuagmireGiggity 07-05-2013 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1439743)
what reason?

I'm assuming same reason for the July cxl. Too many undefers. Plus I've heard some haven't flown in 10 years need extra training.

Lil Pill 07-10-2013 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy (Post 1439439)
These folks have been on "deferred" status for how long?

You have to be on un-defer status before Aug 1 to play at all. Since AA filled the first Aug class and cancelled the second, it left many high and dry now because there are no more chances for a class being scheduled prior to Aug 1 as per AA scheduling policy.

Game over, many get bubkis... unless APA conceeds that leaving final eligibility criteria to be determined by management whims is not a very smart thing to do afterall

Not holding my breath. :mad:

Lil Pill 07-10-2013 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity (Post 1439776)
I'm assuming same reason for the July cxl. Too many undefers. Plus I've heard some haven't flown in 10 years need extra training.

Too many undefers would have made the second class more of a necessity. Don't know about how long 10yr ground pounders need in the sim, but that does not seem that probable either.

Fact is, there was no reason given. As usual. Love this profession. :o

7576FO 07-10-2013 04:25 AM

This from APA Tuesday.

JULY 10 RECALL CLASS: The latest recall class scheduled for tomorrow totals 30 pilots, with five of the 30 going on military leave of absence. The next recall classes are scheduled for August 7 and September 11.


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