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R57 relay 09-07-2013 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1479490)
Hmm you better look again at what we are asking, we are asking for a seat not because of a 3 way but because we don't think usapa will represent us even if the nicolau is it. Usairways offered usapa to negotiate every section of a new contract and let the seniority issue go to arbitration, guess who refused? I cazll you eastholes for the career destruction you have brought to the west group. BTW the MB speaks only of companies not pilot groups, so we were a single company in 2007.

Well, that's not what in the transcript, but maybe you guys cleared it up in a filing. I mean, Judge Silver had to define what your case was really about anyway.

We haven't brought career destruction. You guys have done as much damage to all of our careers with your premature court action. I think you've done it again with what the 9th said, but we'll see. I don't claim to be a lawyer.

cactiboss 09-07-2013 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1479532)
Well, that's not what in the transcript, but maybe you guys cleared it up in a filing. I mean, Judge Silver had to define what your case was really about anyway.

We haven't brought career destruction. You guys have done as much damage to all of our careers with your premature court action. I think you've done it again with what the 9th said, but we'll see. I don't claim to be a lawyer.

Almost 10 years under loa 93 and you still don't get it.

R57 relay 09-07-2013 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1479542)
Almost 10 years under loa 93 and you still don't get it.

How many years back in the right seat and you still don't get it.

You agreed to amend the TA. Live up to your agreements.

Gallifrey 09-07-2013 02:17 PM

Fix the pay, fix the pay, fix the pay, fix the work rules, and fix the vacation. Final and binding, separate ops. We get it.


moveon.org :D

R57 relay 09-07-2013 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Gallifrey (Post 1479551)
Fix the pay, fix the pay, fix the pay, fix the work rules, and fix the vacation. Final and binding, separate ops. We get it.


moveon.org :D

Too bad those filing the lawsuits don't get it.

R57 relay 09-07-2013 02:34 PM

Hey Gallifrey,

Are you a 3rd lister? If so, call up Eric Ferguson and tell him you are interested in getting rid of USAPA and see what his response is. Bad-Andy, are you reading this? Would you like to share your experience with them?

cactiboss 09-07-2013 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1479554)
Too bad those filing the lawsuits don't get it.

I see repression is strong in you. What doesn't the west get you lunatic? The fact the west didn't let you steam roll us? You have an indefensible position both legally and morally.

justjack 09-07-2013 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1479582)
I see repression is strong in you. What doesn't the west get you lunatic? The fact the west didn't let you steam roll us? You have an indefensible position both legally and morally.

Like is or not, it has been quite defensible, legally-which I think will allow this thing to drag on.

KillingMeSmalls 09-07-2013 06:51 PM

This is how I see Cacti and R57 on this thread. (Cacti on the left)

http://i.imgur.com/QyBHr.gif

Gallifrey 09-07-2013 08:58 PM

Seniority only matters so much. Pay and work rules affect everyone. It's too bad we can't agree to negotiate a new contract if the merger should fail. I think usapa is on the wrong path with doh in the by laws since every merger has been relative seniority. And ultimately it was final and binding even though you didn't like the results. You won the battle with separate ops only to lose the war.


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