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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1496910)

This is going to sound really anal but I've even contemplated not checking the Intstrument Rating box because technically ATPs don't have Instrument Ratings anymore (they are required to take an ATP practical test and are by default removed when issued an ATP). But, yea I've noticed if you DON'T check the box, it doesn't let you enter IFR experience.

Same goes with the CFI. My CFI is expired (hence compelling me to not check the box as having one), but I have 1 year/600hrs of dual given which the computer will not let me enter if I don't check the box.

You're over-thinking the ATP/IFR thing. Of course you're instrument rated.

If your CFI is expired, I'd click NO.

FWIW, I emailed Pilot Credentials and asked about the instrument rating time/experience question:

"I just had a quick question regarding my profile. Under Certifications > Aeronautical Ratings > Total hours of IFR Certified (Instrument Rating) experience: Is this asking for total Actual Instrument (IMC) time or total flying time on IFR flight plans? To me, it is a little ambiguous. I guess it may be a dumb question and I assumed it meant IMC time only, but I would appreciate clarification on it."

Reply:
"Sorry for the delay, i wanted to get clarification.
This question is asking for Actual Instrument Time.

Sincerely,

Ren Autrey
PilotCredentials.com Support Team
[email protected]"

Hope that helps...

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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1496960)

I don't think that is correct. The cfi certificate is the only one which actually expires.

Not really...I had a conversation with my local FSDO about this a few months ago. Any added instructor rating will bring current all previous instructor ratings according to my FSDO. I was advised to get my glider rating and become a glider instructor...shortest route to bring all other instructor ratings current.

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Originally Posted by BUPilot37 (Post 1497185)

With all due respect to Ren and the team at PilotCredentials (who I think are GREAT!), I think they're wrong on this one. Your actual instrument time is already on the flight hours grid...why ask for it separately in a different (and seemingly illogical) place? This very question also appears on the SWA and FedEx apps, and is written the same way on all three.

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Originally Posted by MilitaryAV8R (Post 1496790)

This is an interesting question. When I first read the application question I assumed it was asking for IMC, and answered it appropriately. Looking at it again, I can fully see your interpretation of the question.

My problem is that as a military pilot our flights are a mix of VFR and IFR flight plans. I do not have anyway that I can think of to go back and separate the two types of flights after the fact for the last 20 years.

I guess for me, I will just stick with keeping my IMC time there in that block.

AV8R - I have the same background, and, respectfully, I think you're overthinking this. I got my Instrument rating at the conclusion of pilot training...all years and hours since are "IFR CERTIFIED (Instrument RATING) experience" [emphasis added]. It already has your actual IMC numbers, and it doesn't ask in any way what kind of flight plan you were on (which, of course, was IFR to the max extent, IAW AFI 11-202V3...)

All: My take is to answer the question being asked...no more, no less. If they want something different, they should ask the question differently.

Just one man's opinion...choose wisely.

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Originally Posted by Y AirPirate (Post 1497316)

I agree with your logic. I doubt I will change my answer based off info from the Internet. The questions seems straight forward enough to me - of the things I would sweat in the interview, that would be the bottom of the list.

But here is my question. Where are they asking for Instrument time? I just went over my AA app 3 times, and the only spot it shows up is my attached resume. The only columns I show in the flight hours grid are:
PIC/SIC/Instructor/Night/last 12/last24/landings

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Originally Posted by Y AirPirate (Post 1497316)

Your actual instrument time is already on the flight hours grid...

I'm not seeing this on my flight hours grid. Is it on yours? Did you do a global transfer? Perhaps that's different than manual entry.

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Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 1497311)

How about just doing a check ride with a DPE that can do instructors, if you are on top of your stuff you can do it quickly.

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Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 1497311)

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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1496960)

I don't think that is correct. The cfi certificate is the only one which actually expires.

That's an interesting point. I still contend that the cfi certificate indeed expires though.

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Originally Posted by mpilot153 (Post 1497353)

But here is my question. Where are they asking for Instrument time? I just went over my AA app 3 times, and the only spot it shows up is my attached resume. The only columns I show in the flight hours grid are:
PIC/SIC/Instructor/Night/last 12/last24/landings

ALCON: I stand corrected...AirlineApps (Delta and United) has an entry for actual and simulated instrument time, but not PilotCredentials. After a while, they start to blur together...

However, I do intend to stick with my previous answer...otherwise, I see no sense in asking for years as well as hours.

Sorry for any confusion.

YAP

If you stop to read the back of your pilots license and you have an ATP rating.....

You will notice that you do not have an Instrument Rating listed on your certificate. If you don't have it listed on your certificate, how can you check the little box that says you have an Instrument Rating?

Problem solved.