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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver (Post 1520604)

So in a nut shell you make these bold a$$ claims with "doug parker said"? You sound just like relay with that nonsense. Parker will say and do anything to get a merger done and that much is a proven fact.

I don't see where you answered a single question here its just all double talk. Yes I agree you should get off the subject because you have no idea what the hell you are even talking about. Just another programmed robot from the east machine.

Not even an option coming that arbitration award and we have zero reason to do so. Now you get a court to force us off then you may have something however outside of that its NIC or die.

WD at AWA

Thanks for proving one or two of my points there.

And your wrong on your final statement there. YOU have to get a court to get us off DOH. I believe that's how it works. In fact, the only two decisions standing right now, have unequivocally stated that USAPA is free to do as they want.

THEN you gotta get the court to believe and agree to your claims of a DFR. Wake doesn't count. Obviously he was overturned.......

Have a good one WD.....

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Originally Posted by kingairip (Post 1520610)

Whatever. You made your points and everyone knew what side you were on. The good news is...we won, you lost. Or wait...it didn't matter to you either way....riiiiiight

I lost? Wouldn't know it by looking at my LCC stock :D

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Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1520675)

I lost? Wouldn't know it by looking at my LCC stock :D

Sure.......

Please take your East v West trash taking back to the AOL update thread and keep it there. :D

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Originally Posted by crzipilot (Post 1520617)

Then as usual you were not listening to all because if memory serves me correctly she also stated that usapa was on very shaky ground and would be sued by the disadvantaged pilots. This is the part where the court gives you rope in which to hang yourselves and no doubt the usapa dummies will do just that.

WD at AWA

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Originally Posted by flyinawa (Post 1520435)

The East pilots have enjoyed EVERY benefit created by the merger while the West have enjoyed none. While I'm repeatedly accused of wanting to cash a "lottery ticket", I've watched significant upward movement on the East without yet even really tapping into the pending "massive retirements". While I choose not adopted the "we'll be taking over soon" mentality, I'm not surprised many senior FOs who have been frozen for 7 years on the West are getting pretty tired of the smug attitude of many of your coworkers.

I do find it pretty hard to believe a West pilot suggested we could (should?) hold nearly 1000 wide body captain seats. That's so mathematically impossible even a complete moron would find that laughable.

That is a pretty fair and reasonable assessment. If memory serves me correctly, we were ratio-ed about 1 West pilot to 2 East pilots in the narrow body ranks. Right now I can theoretically hold Captain in 2 East bases because the guy adjacent to me on the Nic can. However.....had it been implemented, I have the majority of West FOs above me who would have possibly taken a third of the available slots....meaning I wouldn't actually have the seniority to upgrade. On the bright side, when I DO upgrade, I expect I'll already have a significant number of East pilots below me on the seniority list so I won't have to sit reserve.

With that said, I have better things to do most of the time than get on web boards and lash out at everyone about what I should or shouldn't be entitled to. Life's too short and I have a little kid at home who is a lot more fun than sitting at the computer arguing. I only responded to Crazy's post because I really hate seeing blatant garbage posted with the intent of mis-informing the AA pilots about our current situation. I already get enough calls from AA buddies asking me about, "what this Captain I just flew with had heard". The amount of miss information is really quite amazing.

Perception is reality? The east is down more hulls than the west since the merger. That's a fact. We do have slightly more active pilots than we did at the merger, but we were understaffed by about 200-300 at the time of the merger and now about 200 of our pilots are on the E190. We have had gains-we got all of the A330s which added total pilots as they almost always require 3 pilots and we have added check airmen and management pilots.

You haven't gained you say, but absent the merger Doug Parker, the current golden boy of the airline world says that you would have been much worse off than without it. Had we settled the Nic food fight we would all been better off by now, IMHO.

What would an AA pilot hired in 1998 think of being placed behind a new hire US pilot that is currently in indoc.?

The west pilot that originally posted the numbers being discussed is absolutely, without a doubt, one of the stupidest people to ever be put in an aircraft. It was just one of many way out there posts that they pulled from you know where.

Your time spent with your child instead of on here or any other board is time well spent. Mine are in their 20's and I miss that time terribly. Enjoy it. We need to learn from the past, but put it behind us.

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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver (Post 1520539)

I just go so sick of seeing all these east folk talk about how unfair the award was but DOH which is a complete staple job is the gold standard and completely fair:rolleyes: You guys crack me up. Not one of you wants to take responsibility for your actions and extremely poor decisions. The world already knows what the east has done so not worried that the AA pilots don't know. In the future if you're going to spread lies at the very least have some proof to back your **** up.

WD at AWA

What exactly did YOU, or any other west pilot, do to save my job?

If we follow the MOU the west pilots won! We won't go into this merger with a combined east/west DOH list. That was job 1 for you guys and you did it. Be happy.

Was the post in question yours?

If only you guys had a thread dedicated to this unsolvable debate.

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Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 1520832)

If only you guys had a thread dedicated to this unsolvable debate.

We did, and for a while everyone was doing a good job of keeping it there. But, it's a web board...........

I'm guessing that guys that complain about board posts that could be bypassed in about .25 seconds are the ones with the guard frequency selected and microphone in their hand, "On Guard!!!"