Flow thru on AA property before the merger.

I have never commented on the AA flow through pilots or the AA pilots and their rightful place on a SLI. And I won't.

When has USAPA ever had a DOH, no fence mantra?

I'm sorry, I understood that to be part of their Constituition. Come to think of it, what were their demands in the AWA merger ?

If I'm incorrect, feel free to correct me with facts.

You made a statement about someone else's union position in a future arbitration that may never even occur... that you implicitly assumed was true.. ...you used no facts... and now you want us to prove your assumption was wrong? Why would we waste our time on your factless, implicit assumptions about things that may never even happen?

You would fit in great with the West pilots (implicit assumption kings).

P.S. The one fact you tried to allude to was irrelevant. ALPA, not USAPA, was the union Constitution in effect in the last arbitration, and even ALAP's constitution has changed since then, which is also irrelevant.

Well, since you asked........ Sorry PT, I can't resist.

USAPA's C&BLs don't call for strict DOH. Here's what they say:

"To maintain uniform principles of seniority based on date of hire and the perpetuation thereof, with reasonable conditions and restrictions to
preserve each pilot’s un-merged career expectations."

Actually pretty vague, huh? You could say that the UA/CO SLI did just that since it had a LOS component, right?

USAPA didn't demand anything in the AWA merger, ALPA was the CBA at the time. ALPA PROPOSED a LOS merger. After the Nicolau award, USAPA took over and put the above in their C&BLs, but was unsuccessful at achieving a combined east/west list, instead leaving it to the final AA/east/west combination.

What USAPA PROPOSED to US was a DOH SLI with a set of conditions and restrictions, generally favoring and fencing off PHX for west pilots.

I would have thought you knew this after all this time and all your comments.

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Well one thing is sure. When it comes to SLI, everyone can argue what is fair.

Don't forget those that espouse the "no one says life's fair" theory of life. Oh yeh, remember the 'I got mine' guys, and I assure you, when it comes to the xxx cutting, there are plenty of them on all sides. In many ways there is as much disfunction within APA as there is on the LLC side(s).

Nature of the beast. Unions, PTA, soccer parents, church boards....all about the same.

Im just spitballin' here but I'm guessing the reason Eaglefly is so negative about all of us Airways guys is the fact that he is/was one of the numbered flows, who if not given LOS credit for his time at Eagle, will be hurt badly in this merger. Just a guess, i could be totally wrong. IF that is the case I can't say as I blame him. It would suck to get a number and be forced to wait for years to flow and then not long after you're called a merger takes place and there is the potential to have a few thousand guys from another airline put above you

Especially if you flowed into AA long after the Merger "announcement date" and barely before the merger POR, while many YOUNG pilots were hired before you flowed....

SLI will be what it will be... The message board is just a place to vent for sanity.