Petition to mods: Ban Cactiboss and WD
 

I used to enjoy this forum. I still come on occasionally to see what's up but my visits are always ruined by posts from these two notorious former AWA pilots. I don't know why the mods still allow them here. They are hateful, immature flamebaiters. They taunt and bully east pilots and anyone sympathetic to them. They make west pilots look terrible. They contribute nothing constructive or meaningful to any discussion.
For anyone following the thread on the US Airways incident in PHL this evening ( http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sa...ident-phl.html ) you know that it has already been ruined by these two. They have already determined that the east crew of the flight is at fault due to their poor judgement.
I know I could just ignore them, or just stop following APC (which I mostly have), but why should I? This is supposed to be a place to be able to discuss the airline business and exchange information (and good rumors), not a place to come to be **** upon by angry, disgruntled pilots.
Please post here if you agree with me. This is long overdue.

Agree 100%. These flame baiters have nothing to contribute and can't stop posting about 2006/2007 Nic drama. Ban em!

I agree. No dog in their fight and they ruin every thread they show up in my throwing insults at everyone and turning everything into some fight that nobody cares about. I've had to close out of so many threads because they get lost by the rants of these two.

I disagree. I think these two should stick around. While they don't use the best method of conveying their message, I usually understand where they are coming from. It's always seems easy for an East guy to say "move on" about the Nic. The truth is the truth and just because it's been seven years doesn't mean people can just forget something this big.

Both are well on their way to permanent bans due to previous infractions. WD is temporarily banned....again... now. Eventually the system will boot them unless they miraculously figure out how to color in between the lines.

I don't think banning these guys will necessarily solve anything. There is a lot of this bashing in threads. Whether it's bashing Deborah Hersman, bashing pre merger pilots, or bringing up a failed checkride 35 yrs ago, it needs to come down to firmer warnings of people who continue to troll for an argument and neglect the rules laid out for the forum.

How many times do you have to be a complete D-BAG before you get banned?

There is an 'ignore' list you can use

That said, I don't use it, I just suffer.

Both cactiboss and wiskey have gotten the automatic 3 day ban achievement award.

It happens so rarely, I don't know. They are my top candidates for unlocking the lifetime achievement award.

The ironic thing is that I generally support their viewpoint in the whole arbitration thing. But, if you refuse to color inside the lines, I've gotta do something.

I'm not even sure they are coloring in the right book.

So, just curious… If this latest incident does indeed turn out to be another east pilot error. What will you all do, keep bashing them?

Lolwut,
That's funny, coming from you.

Hey, I get tired of their crap, too. If you are going to make a point or counterpoint, do it without name calling.

<sniff, sniff>






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Bashing them? Have you read their posts?

I have a similar viewpoint to 80ktsClamp. I don't completely *back* their viewpoint on the AWA/USAir merger, but I do respect it. The problem is, I respected that viewpoint much more prior to reading what they had to say. They come off as colossal ***holes.

Maybe I should take my own advice and make use of the 'ignore' list.

Cactiboss made 1 ... count it ... one ... post in the thread. To quote, he said, "Not surprising."


For that you want him banned?


Seriously?


<checks calendar for year, checks Lat/Long for oppressive regime>






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He does have a history and has already joined the automatic 3-day ban club for amount of issues. None of us are doing anything drastic because of this thread.

<removes tinfoil hat from TonyC's head>

The automatic 3-day ban club ....

Is that described in the Terms of Service, or just a creation of someone's ego?





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You wear the condescending moderator look so well. ;)






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It has nothing to do with the Nic, or moving on. Thought that was obvious.

No then I guess everything they've said in the past is justified. :rolleyes:

If you read my post you'd see that I was referring to all of their past actions on this forum, not just that one thread.
I guess it all depends on how you view internet forums. I see them as a place to attempt to have a meaningful exchange of ideas and information. People like CB and WD, (and from what I can see- you), see them as a place to vent their anger and frustration under a veil of anonymity, or in some cases, just be a dick.
For the most part, I think the mods do a decent job of keeping things civil on here, but it seems like CB and WD get away with a lot, so I called for the ban. I guess you like the tone they set.

Seriously.

It's not their views on east/west it's how they treat people. Especially the one guy that says son to everybody. Truth is I feel bad for his real son being raised by him.

Anymore I just feel pity for them. I won't advocate for a ban, but it would probably benefit them the most. Time to warm up the ignore list.

The biggest issue is that they won't let go of the past. US and AA are in a new merger now and they can't let go of the US/AA saga that goes back to 2005.

Thread after thread gets ruined by their banter. Most people on here are trying to have adult, informational discussion about the AA/US merger, not the Nic fight that is essentially dead.

Instead of letting bygones be bygones they just keep instilling divisiveness by name calling and bashing of their coworkers.

Just curious who you fly for? As far as the NIC being dead, no matter how bad the east wishes it were, it's not. While these 2 seem passionate on their position, how are they any different then some of the prolific easties?

curioUOTE=nwa757;1601924]The biggest issue is that they won't let go of the past. US and AA are in a new merger now and they can't let go of the US/AA saga that goes back to 2005.

Thread after thread gets ruined by their banter. Most people on here are trying to have adult, informational discussion about the AA/US merger, not the Nic fight that is essentially dead.

Instead of letting bygones be bygones they just keep instilling divisiveness by name calling and bashing of their coworkers.[/QUOTE]

i was thinking the same thing.

Sierra Hotel ... S.H. ... $h!t h0t

W.D. ..... Think about it.

When he figures it out he will leave on his own, or stay and provide us the continued blue pill humor.

It would be mistake to ban these guys.

I also lurk and occasionally post but find so much of this stuff mind numbing.

If posters were inhibited from expressing their passion this would turn into a real bore. Not sayings other people don't have rights or shouldn't be upset. I'm simply saying if this forum becomes monotone it will have a mass exedous.

Yeahright. :rolleyes:




Unless you don't like the ideas, in which case those people should be banned. Since you have determined someone contributes nothing meaningful, you call for him to be banned.

Would it work the other way if he claims you contribute nothing meaningful?


That there is pretty funny, Mr. Dashdog. :D

As in ironic.






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If you remove the worst two, three, or four offenders the rest wouldn't be monotone.

It's like being a moderator at a Tourette's debate. It's impossible and nothing gets accomplished as thread after thread goes into the weeds.

No dog in this one, but is it possible that those on the East side of the issue deserve the treatment that they get? I also get tired of reading WD/Cactiboss constant bashing, but I agree with them wholeheartedly! Any bad karma that comes to the East is deserved. Banning their opinion is nothing but CENSORSHIP!

Are you saying that name calling and personal attacks are ideas, or that they are meaningful in some way? What exactly does that contribute to any discussion?

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I wasn't proposing banning their opinions, nor am I stating whether I agree or disagree with them. Their opinions are irrelevant to this discussion. Did you read my initial post?

I did. You said:


Really? He ruined the thread by saying, "Not surprising." :rolleyes:






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Welcome to American. We're glad you're here!

A little more of the discussion...

LOL !!!

Well, it looks like it's settled. Many of the East pilots on this forum request any West pilots disputing their claims be banned from this forum. Guys, this isn't binding arbitration or a USAPA meeting, it's a neutral forum. I always find it odd people who demand others be banned here because they disagree with them. It seems it's not that they want to stop hearing what they say (because they could just put them on ignore), it's that they want OTHERS to stop hearing what they say. In essence, they want to CONTROL others and silence them.

If you don't like a particular poster, put them on "ignore" and your problem is solved. If your interest is muzzling those you disagree with, the best option for success there is relocation to Moscow, Tehran or Pyongyang. :cool:

What makes you think I'm an east pilot or that I disagree with them? If I was a West pilot, I'd want them gone too.

Yes, it gets really annoying when a valid point is obscured by some of the pure nonsense that comes out. I also don't like posting just for the sake of inciting. If you can't make a contribution to the discussion without resorting to name calling then you need to be back on the playground with the other school kids.