We've been flexed to 95 out East for the last 5 years. We had our summer vacation allotment reduced and unilaterally imposed 5 years ago with a grievance pending.

I blame the America West pilots.

Out of our wonderful 3 weeks a year vacation I got one week I bid-Oct. Nothing on rebid and assigned 2 weeks in Feb. Canceled one to try and get something else, but to date not a single day open for rebid for CLT AB captains. So, looks like I might lose it.

I have a west friend that averaged 95 hrs credit last year-by choice.

I bid any 7 days any month starting Nov back to Jan. Got Feb/March.

Hope we get that year end sell back.

I was thinking the same thing or rather, did the West think this through? What'll the APA do with this ( it WILL eventually wind up in their laps).

Solves 1/3 of their problem I suppose.

I don't know what they were thinking, or maybe they just have short memories. Several years ago in a crew news Parker laid out the situation for them. Because of the LAS closure, the west block hour requirements dropped, but because of the US/AW merger TA the company had to keep the west hulls and flying at a certain number. Absent that, the PHX base would be cut even more. It has nothing to do with the PHX hub, just that amount of flying from the base. The time could be flown more efficiently somewhere else. But somewhere this idea that it's just east flight ops guys forcing this to favor the east was born, and stuck.

"Please don't confuse us with the facts!"

Another thing-cacti, why would you post this? It certainly doesn't help your argument.

It has everything to do with that PHX hub. Lowest yields in the country after Vegas. Heck, Buffalo does better.

Fuel isn't $35 per anymore.

No, that is a different issue. They have to keep the hub because of the DOJ settlement, and before I guess they thought it was economically feasible. The PHX hub did make some marginal or unprofitable east flying profitable. But my point is that the flying there has been artificially high because of the TA and the MOU, not because of east manager favoritism.

This whole idea that Parker and Kirby were so stupid that they let two east flight managers schedule the whole airline just to favor the east pilots is beyond absurd.

Yes its absurd... and assaulting Capt Hale with a 46 slide presentation :eek: makes an absurd notion even more absurd. :rolleyes:

So let's see if I got the east scum point of view correctly, you scumbags believe we have been a single airline for nine years so you can impose your pos union on us but you don't believe we are a single airline when it comes to sharing growth or furloughs? How har would it be to route west crews thru east cities? How about west domiciles in east cities? How about the flying that is still owed the west? Biggest scumbags to ever wear an airline uniform.

How can a professional pilot sink so low? Classless! Any anger issues you want to tell the FAA about?