AA.pilotcredentials.com and the profile
 

Although it says AA is hiring, the pilot credential site says not accepting new profiles at this time?

I have been working all day to try and figure out out to do the export/import thing.

Do I have to create new profiles for each and every airline? I have an old FedEx profile and would like to apply to AA and SWA.

Thx:)

Global Credentials
 

https://global.pilotcredentials.com/index.php

I used this site when I had multiple apps out to airlines that were using pilot credentials. I logged in this morning to see if is still the same and found my membership expired. It bears some investigation and thought it may be a starting point for you to fill out Apps.

Regards,

Man, I think I just barely squeaked mine in and completed it in the nic of time. I tried on Tuesday, and it was down. Worked yesterday, but not again today. I did have to try several times to get the resume & LOR loaded though.

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An AA Captain friend tells me the window is closed for now as they have a ton of apps, as well as returnees/AA Eagle Guys and Gals. He said it might open again in the future just to keep a steady app pool. Lots of retirements so figure hiring will continue.?

UAL and DAL have a lot lot leaving too.

I am wondering if there is such a thing as over qualified? I have contacts at ALL the majors, freight too and, I am getting the impression they don't want guys/gals with too much experience. 5-7000 hours, a degree and some PIC turbine time. Much more than that and "You are an old dog"! 45 years of age seems to be a cutoff as well.:confused:

Keep trying. We had a 52 year old in my new hire class and quite a few other older guys. I was 40 and right in the middle of the pack age-wise. Flesh out your resume with some non-flying stuff like community activities, leadership/mgt experience, etc. I think just plunking a thick logbook onto their desk isn't going to get you anywhere.

Like Huey said, plenty hired recently in their 40s. Time wise there is a big mixture; turboprop captains, military, other airlines (JetBlue, Southwest, Alaska, Frontier).

I agree with Huey- well rounded seems to be a very good thing. As for age, that was the case with my new hire class as well. The oldest was a former Comair captain, and was 57. Great guy! As for the youngest- 27 and a former RJ captain as well. Our class breakdown was fairly even with a mix of military and civilian pilots. However, ALL of the military pilots in my class also had regional experience and were current 121 pilots.

I honestly have no clue what sets an applicant apart from the "herd". If you get the interview, that seems to be the most difficult part. However, don't take this for granted, and I would absolutely suggest some interview prep. The TBNT rate seemed to be greater than half of those interviewed. I think people were taking for granted the fact that there was no simulator eval or all day technical interview.

Of course, who knows what is going to happen with the American hiring process. All I can offer there is to apply, keep your stuff up to date, and to be patient. If you want to work here and apply, it's not a question of "if", but "when" you will get an interview. The attrition here (on the USAirways side) is extremely aggressive, and will only pick up. It seems I can count on one hand the number of pilots I've flown with whom were younger than 60. Good luck and I hope you get your shot!

Two Great Airlines .... One Great Future

USAir pilots, Watch out the fox is in the hen house

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Well it was yesterday. I bought a Wonka bar but am scared to open it!:eek:

I was a 747 guy, 43 and tons of experience and ratings when I got hired with AA back in 2000.
Don't think it works against you and not sure what they are looking for, we have all types in the cockpit: From the most high-strung Air Force type to the most laid-back Redneck:))

The only AF guys that are high strung are the Fighter+ Zoomies.

-- Transport Toad :D

I really wish this was true, but unfortunately not.
EVERY airframe (even Gucci) has some losers...as was expertly demonstrated during my sim session today. :cool:

-a KC-10 dude

I'm a pure civilian AWA 97 hire, so I can't speak for AA or LCC East at this point, but some of the nicest guys I've ever flown with were AF and Navy fighter pilots. In both seats.

Oddly enough, most all of the Richard Craniums I can think of, in either seat, were civilians.

One of the most easy going and affable guys I remember flew F-4s in Vietnam.

Great statement. As a former enlisted aircrew member, even our USAF micromanagers were better and more laid back than the worst civvie Richard.....time and time again, the true Richards always, always were pure civvie......BUT, that doesn't mean the military was better....

Military guys rock. Doesn't matter which branch... they've "been there done that" and know how to switch from serious to fun in a snap. And of course I'm honored to share the flight deck with those who served. Thank You!

For those of you w/ a mil background, how did you put in your UPT flight time? It only asks for PIC and SIC. I'm just trying to figure out how to include those since we received the BE-300 type post-UPT.

Right from the Q&A section of the aa pc website:


A: Here are the guidelines:

PIC (Pilot In Command) = Any time you signed for the plane as aircraft commander
or solo including all instructor time.

SIC (Second In Command) = Any time you acted as second in command and/or didn't sign for the plane.
This DOES include dual/student time.

Instructor = Only the time you logged as an instructor, regardless of the time being reported in PIC.

Instructor time is PIC time. It belongs in both columns.

Hope this helps!

I took my app down after getting hired at US Airways, but I think workingforfree posted the correct interpretation. I think I put it as SIC even though by the FAA's definition there is no such thing as SIC in a T6/38 (I guess one could log SIC in a T1).

Bottom line it boosts your total time, and turbine but not PIC.

PilotCredentials.com profile summary message
 

Just wanted to compare and know if everybody is experiencing the same: once logging in and being directed by default to the profile summary page, you will have a snapshot of your application status. All green checkmarks, and no item pending. Scrolling down further, it shows that the profile/application is published/visible, and when the last update was performed. Also it shows that the application is "Complete" At the very end there is the "Messages" section: please check all sections of your profile for accuracy".
Checked all sections but I couldn't find any errors nor discrepancies.
Sent Support emails concerning this, after a couple of short messages, I received a response that the profile seems to be complete and up to date.

Does anyone else has this message? Is this notification generated automatically by default, regardless?

If you had it and then made some changes, did it correct it?
Any input is appreciated, Thank you.

That's a normal message. Don't worry about it. Mine always said that and I was hired a few months ago.

Thank you. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!

thank you for the clarification. fell much better now.
Crossing fingers, and waiting for good news!

All,
Which page do I "check the box" for evaluator pilot?

I've been over the profile twice, and can't see it.

I guess it's pilot-proof. :D

Thanks.

Are people getting hard copy LORs and uploading those, or is there an electronic way like airlineapps?

On the initial page before you log in there is a link to do a recommendation on the top right. You can't send a request like airline apps unfortunately.

LOL. I was SJAFB and Travis back in the day...there're some 10 guys I wouldn't share a stick of gum with. One or two of them made it here, but so it goes.

Please explain the last part...what do you know???

There's a hairpin turn required to negotiate the stairway landing at my hotel. I'm calling in sick. We should NEVER stay here!

There is a "current rating" box on Pilot Credentials, is it asking are you current in that aircraft or do you have a type rating in that aircraft?

That explains why the face-to-face meet with a line-pilot at a recent job fair stated twice: 'you have plenty of time', maybe meaning: 'You have TOO much time'... Surmising now that- 15,000+hrs & 50-something age won't get me an interview anytime in the near future. :(

I think this is the case. I have the exact same situation going on, plenty of contacts, multiple jet type ratings, international experience. But 47 years old and 14000 is to "much".

I have almost 8000 with multiple big jet types, varied exp. and >45 yrs. and got hired with class date shortly. I just kept updating and networking. Remember, well in my opinion anyway, it seems that they are looking for a varied crossection of folks including experience and ages. (Oh, I have a Masters Degree as well...) One question that I did have to address in F2F was how I would handle going from a 121 Capt to now being an FO for unknown years. I guess I answered it correctly. It's about the long term stabilization of my family and career not my ego. The guys interviewing seemed to have compatible backgrounds and really tried to make you feel comfortable. It seems like they've been hiring gangbusters but in reality there have only been about 300+ who have been through F2F. Some of those went to competitors and some are in pool. Don't give up!

Fly safe folks!

I think you guys are reading too much into it. We had 2 guys in their 50's with over 20,000 hours in our interview group in July. One got hired and is currently waiting for a class date the other didn't but I'm 90% sure it wasn't because of his age or time (I talked to him at length). Think about it, why wouldn't they want highly experienced pilots at a low payscale? I've learned that that the initial assesment on the app seems to be the key to an interview. You guys offer a huge benefit with a low price tag.

Hopefully that below industry standard 1st yr pay of 40/hr will go to 68/hr in 2015. That's one of the things APA is pushing.

First 6.5 months of hiring the avg 'off the street' age was 37 yrs old. Guys over 40 were 5x as likely to get hired as guys under 30.

Guys 50 (+/-) are getting hired.

There is no conspiracy.

Excellent! Thanks. I do not have an advanced degree. The F2F was positive and she really liked my enthusiasm. We discussed the CA-to-FO, but not from a direct question.

Supposedly this has been agreed to, though I never saw it in official writing, and with the new extension in contract negotiations, it could be revisited again. Fingers crossed in any case.

Also, I had 9000 hours when I was hired. That was on the US side of things, but the same people are still involved, so having "too much" time probably isn't disqualifying.

I am not sure the actual answer, however I only checked the box for the aircraft that I am current in. I am assuming that's what they want, since in that section we are already putting that we have PIC/SIC which would require a type rating for those aircraft that require it.

If someone has a better answer to this I would like to be sure though.

IMO flying experience is only part of the equation. Right now they are really honing in on people with broad experience, like check airmen, military, chief pilots, etc. For sure, line PICs are being hired, but they can still be picky at this point. Having 12,000 hours of 121 experience checks off a box, but if that's all you've done is line flying, you're in a large stack of others that look just like you. To HR, a 5,000 hour 121 captain looks very similar to a 12,000 hour 121 captain.

Keep updating and be patient! With the retirements just starting to tick upwards, I'm sure most of you will have your chance.