MD-80
You guys that do/have flown the 80, can you clearly see your map display w/out looking around the yoke? i.e. is the display obstructed by the yoke?
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I fly the -88 & -90 for DL but from what I can remember from jumpseating on AA, their -82s & -83s appear to be set up the same. If you have your seat at the proper height/position, the top half of the ND is pretty easily visible but it takes a bit of a peek over/around the yoke to see the bottom half.
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The same thing happens in the airbus when you have your lunch on it. ;)
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Yes it's obstructed. You can only see the top half. That's one of the reasons most folks fly in ARC or MAP mode.
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As one mad dog driver sarcastically told me once, "it's a cockpit by Remington, load a bunch of instruments in a big shotgun, BAM! Where they hit was where they stayed...."
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Yes to see and reach everything you seat has to be pretty high. In the old school 80s with the steam gauges (the original 82) it can be a hassle to see a dme readout and the darn brake temp is almost hidden down there too.
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Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.
Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1688443)
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.
Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up. ...and you gotta love when you're 500' AGL in IMC on the ILS and the LOC needle goes full scale left followed by full scale right deflection. Standard MD-80 pilot remark, 'just give it a sec, it'll come back...huh huh hopefully...' -Lucky |
Hey, at least it's CAT III auto land :eek:
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1688443)
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.
Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1688443)
Since the navigation information provided in the MD80 is unreliable, it isn't that big a deal that you can't see the display. Navigation in a Douglas product is an "'ish" proposition, followed by vectors. Look out the window and turn at familiar landmarks. If you have not flown that route a million times, then you are probably screwed. Thank God for ASAP and NASA reports.
Have you ever seen a four year old child pour a glass of milk? Douglas RNAV and VNAV are much the same; always hesitant and frequently it ends in something you will have to clean up. The MD80 has an ND? Who knew?:rolleyes: |
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