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Starting a master thread on thoughts for the JCBA. SLI aside what improvements do we need to focus on for the group? Delta's contract is a good starting point but can be improved on. So far what we have seen from limited communication is cost neutral changes proposed.

I thought you agreed to a max of 40 million in changes? That kind of takes the steam out of negotiations if true.

I hope USAPA sticks true to the email about the profit...
"This changes the dynamics of negotiations."

100% line guarantee. Whatever you are scheduled to do, you are paid for. The only unpaid time would be if you didn't have sick time to cover an absence or you missed a part of your trip due to commuting, or you dropped a trip. If a trip cancels all or part before or after sign in, you get paid. Any reassignments would pay better of original trip or the new flying. Any extension into a day off pays 150% or a return day at straight pay, your choice, no arguments. Simplify the ability to trip trade. Make it automated and instantaneous with a 24hr window before secondary lines are created. No green or red light restrictions during this period. Then open automated trip trading again for the entire month with red and green lights.

We agreed to a mere $6k signing bonus to allow them to complete a merger that they TOLD US WOULD BE $1B IN ADDITIONAL YEARLY PROFITS.

Now that they made $1.5B in a single quarter, they are laughing their A$$e$ off.

Negotiations are over. We own the new car. We are off the lot.

So yes or no, is there a 40 million cap on the JCBA?

Never mind.

This was vague. Is he saying we can get monetary improvements out of the jcba? I thought it was no cost items?

I've heard that the MOU has nothing to do with the JCBA and I've heard that the JCBA and MOU will be darn near identical in cost structure . I'm lost

No... There is no limit to the value of changes that the company and union agree to, but there is a vague limit on the value of changes that arbitrators can impose if any items go to arbitration.

"The arbitrator’s award specifically shall adhere to the economic terms of the MTA . . ."

That's the actual language in the MOU; it doesn't set a specific value, so it's up to the arbitrators, I suppose, to decide how much change would be allowed to still remain within the economic terms of the MTA.

Thanks for the answer. Is there a union interpretation on what that means?

So, now that there are several good rumors and everyone I've talked to is amazingly only one degree of separation from either the NC or people "really in the know" - I thought maybe we could try to consolidate all the info back into one thread (I know - wishful thinking).

The Delta plus (from three-ten, percent/dollars/whatever) is nice to hear, and I believe the scope balloon Kirby is trying to float isn't going anywhere - my real question is what about soft pay and credit? I have friends at FedEx, United, Delta and SWA who all seem to be getting 100+ hours a month... and complaining about it:o - why isn't this as big an issue or have my "people in the know" (sarcasm on!) conveniently left this part out?

Thanks!

My biggest concern is trip trading - after watching some of the videos on wings it looks like AA has green/red days making trip trades hard to do? I know at airways I have gone months without flying a single trip I was awarded by using the bid sheet.

That's funny. Every time I go "on the bid sheet" (and I do it a lot ), I get "sorry I have nothing for you." Are you on the 190? Maybe it's different on that.

Bus - I got that a lot too (bid reserve for football this month), but I'm persistent and keep trying. I only hold secondaries but am able to use it as long as I start trying on my days off.

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We can do a LOT better than AA's and US's systems for trip trades. We should start with the Delta and FedEx contracts and go from there.

Delta's pay offer can always be negated elsewhere like scheduling and health care. Either we have true parity with Delta in all respects or a CBA that is sub-standard.

Contract parity.

Surprise surprise no jcba or arbitration on the 15th as promised. Apa said yes to the company's request. Don't know if that is good or bad....