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PurpleTurtle 08-04-2014 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1698579)
NMB is a joke. Bought and paid for lackeys. They run roadblock to using the RLA the way it was intended, to protect labor rights while preserving services. It's all been lost except the preserving services at all cost.

Ok. Lackeys but not idiots. They will follow the law and court orders.

The APA made a mistake counter suing to have unilateral control of the SLI at SCS (unless delay is their strategy). To "preserve service" I would suppose the NMB might be reluctant to declare SCS until the APA demonstrates an intention to follow the law they necessitated. The mediation is a way to move the red tape along, albeit at the speed of bureaucracy.

Dolphinflyer 08-04-2014 05:58 AM

PT,

Glad you're an expert on APA mistakes. It seems to be a common theme from your side. Your side dumped your dysfunctional shotgun marriage in APA's lap and have started blaming it for the associated problems.

kingairip 08-04-2014 07:15 AM

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I say out with the APA and USAPA. We need a card drive after SCS. I'd love to see a real union on property...maybe the Teamsters. There's enough disenfranchised pilots in both memberships. It just might work.

The Drizzle 08-04-2014 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by kingairip (Post 1698904)
I say out with the APA and USAPA. We need a card drive after SCS. I'd love to see a real union on property...maybe the Teamsters. There's enough disenfranchised pilots in both memberships. It just might work.

Please, please, please hook me up with those mushrooms, you are tripping balls.

kingairip 08-04-2014 07:42 AM

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Hey. We can all dream.

Dolphinflyer 08-04-2014 08:19 AM

Not sure if many are aware that if USAPA had one list and a strong unified union, it would have had a decent chance winning enough votes from the AA side to win a representation vote.

kingairip 08-04-2014 08:40 AM

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That was made very clear to me by a couple of ex-TWA guys that graciously allowed me on their jumpseat a while back. Alas, USAPA is the one union on God's green earth with more disfunction than APA. But, I still think an outside union would stand a decent chance of winning a representation vote. (I admit it will likely never happen, though.)

PurpleTurtle 08-04-2014 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 1698858)
PT,

Glad you're an expert on APA mistakes. It seems to be a common theme from your side. Your side dumped your dysfunctional shotgun marriage in APA's lap and have started blaming it for the associated problems.

The APA isn't required to like the RLA or the MB statute, but everyone is required to follow it. The delay they have chosen helps all except PHX pilots.

I'm sure the impact on PHX pilots is just collateral and coincidental.

eaglefly 08-04-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 1698858)
PT,

Glad you're an expert on APA mistakes. It seems to be a common theme from your side. Your side dumped your dysfunctional shotgun marriage in APA's lap and have started blaming it for the associated problems.

Staunch Usapians consider EVERYONE else's actions to be mistakes if they defy the Usapian agenda. Why should other unions be different from arbitrators, managements, judges and the general sentiment of the rest of the industry ? :rolleyes:

flybywire44 08-04-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1699356)
Quote:





Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer


PT,

Glad you're an expert on APA mistakes. It seems to be a common theme from your side. Your side dumped your dysfunctional shotgun marriage in APA's lap and have started blaming it for the associated problems.




Staunch Usapians consider EVERYONE else's actions to be mistakes if they defy the Usapian agenda. Why should other unions be different from arbitrators, managements, judges and the general sentiment of the rest of the industry ?

PL,

Please don't label whole groups of people.

Stop the hate.


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