With thousands of posts on this subject over the last year or so between all of us, you NOW assume this and ask this question ?

Please.:cool:

If the LAA committee doesn't take a position on the Nic how can they present an integration model at all ?

If the LAA committee doesn't take a position on the "pre-merger career expectations" of West pilots, how can that concept even be in play for arbitral consideration ?

I think you are confusing what you WANT out of this situation as opposed to what it will be.

A true statement. No two SLI's are identical and each hinges on its own merits and issues (even stated in the UAL/CAL award). This SLI is more complicated then any past SLI and will not mimic the UAL/CAL award, but will have strong similarities in foundation.

I can live with that. ;)

That azzhole could not care less. He took his lump sum and is currently on his fishing boat down in Cabo somewhere. But I do have another friend still working, but I have not talked to him about the current contract. He feels AA has paid a lot of dues with stagnation. He thinks much like Azzhole, US was little more than a bottom feeder, not on "our" level". He expects and wants you on the bottom. I think the attitude is much like a major pilot toward a regional pilot group. He gets mad when I disagree with him. Azzhole cusses and gets red in the face. Yes I do it on purpose. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

They do not because they have no knowledge how or what this arbitration can do. It is simple really. Two airlines. Three pilot groups. The arbitrators can either 1)take all three list and create a single list to their formula 2) take APA and a re-combined US list (using either their own formula or some some form of NIC) and create a list. What they DO NOT have to do is what everyone wants. They are NOT required to use the NIC. They are NOT required to use DOH. They are not required to consider LOS. In fact they can to do as they see fit as long as they can articulate it is fair and reasonable. If East and West focus their energy on their previous fight they will lose a lot to APA. This arbitration (as basically all are) is different than all previous. It stands on its own. No person can predict accurately what will happen. I do expect something close to UAL/CAL IF East and West cannot work together. If they can I would expect something a bit closer than UAL/CAL. I will predict the West will not be fenced from the East WB.

BS. First phrase- never believe anyone that says "this is a true statement". First sentence. Why yes that is correct. The second sentence. BS starts here. You just said the sun coming up tomorrow won't mimic the sun rise today, but it will kinda look like it.

I'll just leave you with a thought to chew on. Remember when the arbitrator asked the east merger committee chairman if he was the "new Nicolau"? I think you understand what he was getting at, let's see if the LAA committee is stupid enough to be "the new Nicolau" in the upcoming arb.

No mention of your Nic in the decision.

Suck on that.

2 words for you, Jeff Freund.