Cactus's last stand
 

Outside of legacy US Air pilots, many of you may not realize that we are in the last hours of hearing the Cactus call sign. Aircraft will no longer be dispatched under it as of 0700Z tonight.

I wish I were flying tomorrow to constantly hear aircraft saying "Cact---American XXXX" all day long. Most of the captains I've spoken to have sworn to me they're so ready to be done with that call sign, they won't make the mistake even one time. We'll see.

I was in EWR the day Continental started saying United (trying to say United). It was hilarious.

Oh forget it....

Didn't ya hear? The new call sign is going to be "tumbleweed".

Only TEN years too late. "Catpi$$" going the way of the DODO!

Way to keep it classy, grandpa.

Retire. Please.

Like you guys are the shining example of piety.

Ten years, Sonny. Ten years. Longer if they extend the retirement age.

Sonny. Ha. My suggestion had far more to do with your attitude on life than your age. But I'll be sure to mark my calendar for 2025...

I wouldn't worry about it. He'll medical out before then...if he hasn't already.

Dream on. 6 miles +, eat moderately, don't smoke and very little alcohol. Doc says the planes fall apart before I do.

Living large and watching you guys squirm in the wind!

The immature ones are averse to the discomfort of opinions differing from theirs, and are so self absorbed and selfish that they demand you to end your career (or S.T.F.U.) so they can have a career of ease with tickled ears.

"American...."

My ears are tickled. :D

Hopefully this is one more big step for everyone involved to get over it, quit whining, and move on with life.

You can listen to Philly ATC here:

https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=kphl

As predicted, everyone is struggling with it.

call sign
 

Whatever, the cactus call sign was stupid, petty thing and a royal pain in the ass, especially when you flew to Europe and your callsign doesn't match whats written on the side of your aircraft, oh, that's right, the originators of that regional-esque "cat*ss" call sign didn't have to deal with that...:cool:

Whoops. (This was in Stuttgart):

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/0197918.jpg

Also flew to Nagoya.

Well they had one. Sent them into bankruptcy soon after getting it. The flights were wide open, commuters loved them.

I just found the irony amusing. :)

They also flew Dash 8's under the mainline brand. Not sure what they paid.

Well your other option was gonna be "Paper or Plastic" count yer blessings...

British airways must really throw 'em for a loop! Oh yeah just another Beastie easthole....

Better than being a whiny westicle....:D

Eastholes and Westicles. Hopefully in 10-15 years, the new FOs will have no idea what those terms even mean.

At a minimum it will be that long. The hatred that exists now is so deeply rooted that even 15yrs seems a low.

WD at AWA

Hatred says a lot about a person. It's the equivalent of taking a poison pill and hoping your enemy dies.

Maybe but this is the worst I have ever seen. Republic/NWA pails in comparison and I do mean PAILS! In that merger there was not a calculated effort on the part of either party to bring harm to the other. The arbitrator made his ruling and that was that folks HONORED IT even when they did not like or agree with the ruling. The position that was taken by the LUS East pilots have destroyed any change of rebuilding trust. That ship has sailed and I firmly believe that bitterness and hatred will linger on for years 2030 is my best guess.

WD at AWA

What's with the pail hate?

http://www.craftamerica.com/images/p...galvanized.jpg

The "arbitrator" gave them what sould have happened here...equal treatment for equal time. I will NOT agree with my time given less value than yours. PERIOD. Unionism is gone for good here because now the company knows everyone is REQUIRED to follow the SOP's and the law (FAA). The profession is out of the unions hands and that is a new realty that you and them have yet to come to grips with.

I'm not bitter at all, so speak for yourself. I'm moving up the Captain list quite fast, I'm getting great pay and the ride looks smooth for the rest of MY career. It's all about ME and the Company, now. So when you're HATRED boils over in 2020 I'll be saluting you from the Cockpit while you're out walking the picket line trying to explain to the passengers how overpaid and underworked you are.

Ahh so says the person that thinks we dont need a union but sucked the balls off usuapa:rolleyes:

Talk to the republic that are left and see if they feel the way you do! I can guarantee they do NOT. Neither republic nor NWA was bankrupt Usair WAS. Neither Republic nor NWA had nearly 40% of their pilots furloughed Usair DID!

Don't use the word equal. Nothing at all about the east has been equal. You have lied, cheated and stolen and gotten away with it from help from that drunken pig Ed Bular. Now because a REAL union is back you are crying foul wanting to pack up your marbles and not play anymore. Well I am all for that in your case and support you 100% in fact I think you should not pay a penny in dues to APA. STOP PAYING TODAY! Call them and tell them how you feel and that you should be allowed to continue to screw over and entire airlines pilots, the very ones that SAVED you from certain furlough! No matter how you slice it you are employed today for no other reason than AMERICA WEST AIRLINES. Now you think about that for a while, NO OTHER REASON.

WD at AWA

The america west pilots are the equivalent of a bum with loaded underwear.

We gave you a dollar and moved on.

You did WHAT??? Broke and I mean DEAD BROKE. Hell America West met the east payroll because there was zero money left in the the tanks of usair prior to AWA bailing you out. So what dollar did you supposedly give us?? This should be REALLY GOOD, we are waiting:confused:

WD at AWA

America West didn't bail anyone out. Hell, my commuter owned more of US Airways than America West did. Creditors bailed out US Airways & America West. Together. Both were *******'ed.

Hmmmm I just don't recall AWA being bankrupt maybe you have some official documentation you care to share with us all that will support your claim. Can't wait to read what you have.

WD at AWA

With the run-up in fuel prices you needed the liquidity provided by the merger. You were a year away from being insolvent.

AMERICA WEST HOLDINGS CORP - 10-K Annual Report - 12/31/2004

The financing for the merger and subsequent liquidity came from outside the airline. America West contributed nothing to the merger. Neither did US Airways. It was an outside deal, just like the US-AA one. Incidentally, it's most likely why Dough & CO. have been purchasing stock. It's a dumb investment but temp. pops the stock (or keeps it up) allowing the UCC members to offload their allotment and GTFO.

I'm not sure why you guys are so mad. You won the career lottery.

This is the key that nobody seems to be willing to admit. Nic or DOH or whatever... it doesn't matter.

99% of those involved at America West, US Airways, and American have it better today than they would've had the mergers not happened. They're making more money, have a more secure future, and have a better retirement than if their airlines had gone it alone.

I am so glad you posted this and suggest you start reading from page 40 on then lets have a discussion. I can not tell you how happy I am that you posted this 10k as the basis of your argument.

WD at AWA

I love the irony that you're attacking our favorite drunken pig Ed Bular on this post because it's Ed that switch the call sign from USAir to cactus after hearing a PHX female 75 f/o's cry and whine about how they lost all their identity even their call sign, I know I was there.
BTY it's "pale" not "pail" a "pail" is something you carry all your tears in. now go dump it out, replace it with money and move the hell on.