Originally Posted by justjack (Post 2055931)

I am not at all sure what your point is Route66. ("He made MY point, however, that no matter HOW much you feel the union is your friend the REALITY is that the PILOTS WILL DO THE JOB TO GET PAID.")
I have no idea what the motives of this pilot were, but would have to take him at his word. Furthermore, two things can be true at the same time, so again, if he says that he is concerned about passengers that's good enough.
When you say " I'M LOVING IT watching this pilot group twist in the wind like a weather vane on a string in a tornado" are you not part of this pilot group? And why would you feel that way, under any circumstance ? In the future I will remember to symbolically copy paste " I'M LOVING IT watching this pilot group twist in the wind like a weather vane on a string in a tornado" after everything that you post.

Originally Posted by justjack (Post 2055864)

This is nothing new with Doug Parker. Most of the times that I have posted here have been to say the same thing. Think about just how little this would cost AA. Parker will never change. Doug Parker has become the CEO of the largest airline in the World. I believe that he could have done this without screwing his employees. I believe that he is smart enough to know how to stay on top, without kicking labor every single chance that he gets- which he does, without exception. Oil prices are low; the wolf is, at least for now, no longer at the door. So why does he still do these things? Just think about the mentality of someone who would refuse to pay his pilots because of a snow storm. Every time he needs anything just remember, this man, in a time when things could not be better for his bottom line, when given the opportunity, chose to make his pilots shoulder the burden of a blizzard.

Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2056185)

A CEO who publicly states that his frontline employees "have little to no influence on wether the company makes a profit" wether he truly believes it or not, is not concerned with the morale and cohesiveness of any labor group.

Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 2056321)

If Doug wants to take on Delta, he has to provide a quality product. You do not get quality by running a cheap operation. I think we will reach the limits of running a cheap operation soon.

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2056335)

Doug taking on delta means one thing to Doug. Money. He makes more profit. He beats delta.

Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 2055936)

That is giving something up. Maybe it is better, but if it's like most changes we've implemented, I doubt it. The plan is to go to a whole new scheduling system and until then we stay on our own.

That's like saying "We'll do what we've already agreed to if you just give up that pesky sap."

Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2056602)

The "whole new scheduling system" gets rid of the two day bid sheet. That is the point. Whether you are giving something up or not in your eyes, it's already been given up. Why not implement it and get the line guarantee? We rail on the AA culture for 'inability to change' yet that is exactly what happened on our side as well.

Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2055164)

If you read the history on this this is 100% LUS USAPA's fault.

The company VOLUNTEERED to give us sequence protection like LAA but the company also wanted the next day bid sheet, like LAA. APA/East refused and as such we are stuck with what we have.

This blame for this lies SOLELY on APA/East shoulders here and their inability to move on from their LUS contract. Do not turn your anger toward the company!

I cannot believe our reps would think a two day bid sheet is better than line protection but it is what it is. My regional had waaaay better protections for pilots then even LAA does, it's insane how crappy our contract really is. Oh but "pay rates are higher than Delta". Barf.

Originally Posted by justjack (Post 2055931)

I am not at all sure what your point is Route66. ("He made MY point, however, that no matter HOW much you feel the union is your friend the REALITY is that the PILOTS WILL DO THE JOB TO GET PAID.")
I have no idea what the motives of this pilot were, but would have to take him at his word. Furthermore, two things can be true at the same time, so again, if he says that he is concerned about passengers that's good enough.
When you say " I'M LOVING IT watching this pilot group twist in the wind like a weather vane on a string in a tornado" are you not part of this pilot group? And why would you feel that way, under any circumstance ? In the future I will remember to symbolically copy paste " I'M LOVING IT watching this pilot group twist in the wind like a weather vane on a string in a tornado" after everything that you post.